Calculating Relative Speed in Special Relativity: A Quick Guide

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The problem involves calculating the relative speed required for two events, A and B, to occur simultaneously in a different reference frame, S'. The events are separated by a spatial distance of 3 light-years, with event A occurring 1 year before event B. The context is rooted in the principles of special relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Lorentz transformation, specifically questioning the correct use of the equation dt' = gamma(dt - B/c dx). There are attempts to manipulate the equation to find the relative speed B, with some participants expressing confusion over unit consistency and the implications of their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding unit handling and the formulation of the Lorentz transformation. Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the equations and their implications, while others are questioning the assumptions made in their calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the use of units, particularly whether to adopt the convention where c=1. This has led to varying interpretations of the results and the relationships between time and distance in the context of special relativity.

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Homework Statement



In a certain frame S, two events A and B are separated spatially by 3ly with A occurring 1 year before B. What must be the relative speed of a frame S' such that the two events occur simultaneously?



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Don't I just use: dt' = gamma(dt-B/c dx)

but when i put in dt = 1 and dx = 3 i get to gamma = 3B/c which i can't solve! am i doing it right?
 
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i basically come to c^2 = 9B^2(1-B^2)

where have i gone wrong/
 
anyone?
 
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Don't I just use: dt' = gamma(dt-B/c dx)

but when i put in dt = 1 and dx = 3 i get to gamma = 3B/c which i can't solve! am i doing it right?
You need to be more careful with the units, for one thing. Show how you got γ=3β/c. (Note the units don't work out in that equation.)
 
Wow. Careless mistake..!

B=c/3 yes?
 
Close. I think it's better to write the Lorentz transformation equation this way:

[tex]ct' = \gamma(ct - \beta x)[/tex]

Both ct and x have units of length, so β must be unitless.
 
hmm weird..

so i set t'=0 so divide through by gamma..left with ct=Bx...which gives my answer..where did i go wrong?
 
What are the units of t, the units of ct, the units of x, and the units of β?
 
i see. sorry. so c=1 in my result..B=1/3
 
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That's a common convention, but I doubt you're using it in your class. The reason I say this is because when you use units where c=1, c typically doesn't appear in the equations.

If you use c=1, then time is measured in units of length, so t=1 ly. If you don't use c=1, then t=1 yr, and ct = 1 ly. Either way, you'll get the answer you found.
 

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