Calculating Rod's Speed After Free Fall

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of the free end of a thin uniform rod of mass M and length L after it falls from a vertical position about a frictionless pivot. The correct formula derived for the tangential velocity at the end of the rod is v_t = √(3gL), where g represents the acceleration due to gravity. The moment of inertia is crucial in this calculation, with the correct value being (1/3)ML² when the rod rotates about its end, not its center. Participants clarified the importance of using the appropriate moment of inertia for accurate results.

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Homework Statement



From the GRE 0177 practice exam:

A thin uniform rod of mass M and length L is positioned vertically above an anchored frictionless pivot point, as shown above, and then allowed to fall to the ground. With what speed does the free end of the rod strike the ground?

The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{MgL}{2} = \frac{1}{2}I \omega^2 \implies
MgL = \frac{1}{12} M L^2 \omega^2 \implies
\omega = \sqrt{\frac{12g}{L}} \implies
v_t = L\omega = \sqrt{12gL}

Answer
v_t=\sqrt{3gL}

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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0.5*m*g*L + 0 + 0 = 0 + 0.5*m*vc^2 + 0.5*Io*omega^2, where vc = tangential velocity of rod centroid, and Io = rod centroidal mass moment of inertia.
 
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Hi nvn,

Your equation is incorrect. Why have you put a point mass term on the RHS?
 
Oh I understand now, the moment of inertia requires a modification because the object is not rotating about the center of mass. Thanks.
 
The moment of inertia of a rod is only (1/12)*M*L^2 if it's rotating around the center. If it's rotating around an end it's (1/3)*M*L^2. Ach, I see you have already figured it out. Good job!
 
jvicens: The mass moment of inertia of the rod is centroidal as stated in post 2. The rod mass is distributed along its length, not concentrated at its center. Try looking up Io again; your formula appears incorrect.

The answer to your second question is, yes, we should, and we are. See post 2. Your current answer appears to be incorrect.
 
jvicens: You can instead work the problem that way, which is a good method, but it gives the same answer (which is stated in the last line of post 1), not the answer you listed.
 

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