Calculating Rotational KE: Thin Square Slab with a Horizontal Axis"

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The problem involves calculating the angular velocity of a thin square slab as it rotates about a horizontal axis at one corner after being released from a horizontal position. The context is within the subject area of rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on the relationship between potential energy and rotational kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, considering the relationship between potential energy and rotational kinetic energy. There are attempts to apply the parallel axis theorem to find the moment of inertia and questions regarding the height of the center of mass during the motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the energy conservation approach, equating changes in potential energy to changes in rotational kinetic energy. There are ongoing discussions about the correct expressions for moment of inertia and the height of the center of mass, with no explicit consensus reached on the final calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the amount of direct assistance provided. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between variables rather than simply calculating a final answer.

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Homework Statement



A thin square slab with sides of length 0.550 m and mass 1.80 kg is suspended so it can freely rotate about a horizontal axis of rotation perpendicular to the surface at one corner. The square is held so its top and bottom edges are horizontal, and then is released. What is the angular velocity of the square when the point opposite the pivot is as low as possible?

Homework Equations



KE = ½Iω^2
IP = ICM + Mh^2 (parallel axis theorem)


The Attempt at a Solution



I need help setting it up. I feel like I should be determining the angle to find out how far the sheet moved..am I on the right track?
 
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The change in potential energy = change in the rotational kinetic energy.

So you need to find the change in potential energy the center of gravity undergoes from the horizontal position to the lowest position.
 
Okay, so setting up the problem...

½Iω^2=½mv^2

So then switching things around I get

ω^2=(½(1.8)v^2)/(½I)

So then to find I I use Ip=Icm +mh^2 and h will be the diagonal of the square.
And for v?? I don't know..
 
sheepcountme said:
Okay, so setting up the problem...

½Iω^2=½mv^2

So then switching things around I get

ω^2=(½(1.8)v^2)/(½I)

So then to find I I use Ip=Icm +mh^2 and h will be the diagonal of the square.
And for v?? I don't know..

Not change in translational ke, change in pe.

At the horizontal position what is the height of the center of mass (COM) of the square? At the lowest point what the height of the COM, both with respect to a line passing through the stationary corner.

Also what is Ic for the slab?
 
So.. ½Iω^2=mgh

and then for I, I= 1/12 x m (a^2+b^2) + mh^2

So altogether: ½(1/12 x m (a^2+b^2) + mh^2)(ω^2)=mgh

For h I used the difference in measurement between the diagonal and side since this seems to me like the distance the square would have fallen.

I ended up with an angular velocity of 3.153 after plugging everything in but this was incorrect.
 

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