Calculating Shoe Sales Probabilities: A Workbook Exercise

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities related to shoe sales from a store, specifically focusing on the probabilities of purchasing red, green, and blue shoes, as well as combinations of these categories. The original poster expresses confusion regarding how to approach the problem using the provided probabilities.

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  • Participants suggest using a box diagram or Venn diagram to visualize the probabilities and their intersections. There are questions about how to determine the probability of purchasing blue shoes and the total probability of not buying anything. Some participants discuss the relationships between the probabilities and how to account for overlapping regions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various methods for visualization and calculation. There is a recognition of the complexity due to overlapping probabilities, and some guidance has been provided regarding the use of formulas for calculating combined probabilities. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion, with some participants expressing their struggles with the concepts.

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There are mentions of the original poster's lack of familiarity with probability concepts and the challenge of dealing with multiple unknowns in the problem. The discussion includes references to external resources for further clarification on Venn diagrams.

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Homework Statement



A question out of my a workbook I have:

We have sales from a shoe store:

Probability of Red Shoes 0.35
Probability of Green Shoes 0.40
Probability of Red, Green, Blue Shoes 0.05
Probability of Red and Green Shoes 0.1
Probability of Green and Blue Shoes 0.2
Probability of Red and Blue Shoes 0.25
Probability of Red or Blue Shoes 0.6Probability of purchasing Blue shoes?
Probability of Red or Green?
Probability of Red or Blue?
Probability of Blue or Green?
Probability of not buying anything?

I'm not sure how to do probabilities in this format really?

Any suggestions?
 
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Draw a box diagram. The total area of the box should be 100%. Red will have an area of .35, Green will have an area of .40. Blue = ??. Other areas should be intersections of the areas.
 
Sorry, this is my first prob-stats class. What is a box diagram?
 
Draw a big box, and start breaking it into regions that have certain areas.
The biggest challenge here is ensuring that everything adds up to 100%.
 
Remember that red, green, and blue = .05 means that 5% of the 100% should be in all three areas.
Red and Blue also includes that 5% that is in red, blue and green, so sometimes it is easier to count up from the greatest intersection.
 
Oh ok, I broke it up into a Venn diagram earlier, but I don't quite get values from it because I need to know the number of people who didn't buy and the number of people who bought blue.
 
The total number is 100%, you should be able to find the area for blue by using some of the other relations.
Think of all the possible combinations of blue and look at your probability of red or blue. You are given everything but blue alone.
 
So it doesn't make a difference that we have two unknowns? People who didn't buy and people who bought blue?

Sorry if I seem dense. This stuff is confusing to me, I just can't comprehend it well at all. I found Calc 1 through 3 to be fine, but this stuff. I have no idea why.
 
You have a lot more knowns that unknowns. Just piece them all together.
Remember that P(X or Y) = P(X)+P(Y) - P(X and Y).
Similarly, P(X or Y or Z) = P(X) + P(Y) + P(Z) - P(X and Y) - P(X and Z) - P(Y and Z) + [edit] P( X and Y and Z) .
 
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RUber said:
You have a lot more knowns that unknowns. Just piece them all together.
Remember that P(X or Y) = P(X)+P(Y) - P(X and Y).
Similarly, P(X or Y or Z) = P(X) + P(Y) + P(Z) - P(X and Y) - P(X and Z) - P(Y and Z) + 2P( X and Y and Z) .
Is there a table where I can find these online somewhere? They're not in my book and wasn't shown them in class.P(Red or Blue) = P(Red) + P(Blue) - P(Red and Blue)
.6 = .35 + P(BLUE) - .25

P(Blue) = .5? That can't be right.
 
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Why not? Remember, most of the numbers given are overlapping regions. As you build your Venn diagram, you should be able to determine what the P(Blue and not red and not green), P(Blue and Green and not red), P(Blue and Red and not green), and P(Blue and Green and Red). These would be mutually exclusive areas which would add up to P(Blue).
 
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I guess I was thinking Red + Blue + Green has to be 1.0 when added but that's not true.
 
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I edited post #9. Use that to find out the probability that nothing is bought. i.e. 1 - P(Red or Blue or Green).
 
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RUber said:
I edited post #9. Use that to find out the probability that nothing is bought. i.e. 1 - P(Red or Blue or Green).
Ah ok I figured this out now. Thank you for your help :)
 
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bnosam said:

Homework Statement



A question out of my a workbook I have:

We have sales from a shoe store:

Probability of Red Shoes 0.35
Probability of Green Shoes 0.40
Probability of Red, Green, Blue Shoes 0.05
Probability of Red and Green Shoes 0.1
Probability of Green and Blue Shoes 0.2
Probability of Red and Blue Shoes 0.25
Probability of Red or Blue Shoes 0.6Probability of purchasing Blue shoes?
Probability of Red or Green?
Probability of Red or Blue?
Probability of Blue or Green?
Probability of not buying anything?

I'm not sure how to do probabilities in this format really?

Any suggestions?

Draw a Venn diagram; see, eg.,
http://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/venn-diagrams.html
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/VennDiagram.html

Remember also: "or" is an 'inclusive or', meaning "and/or", so those who buy "red or green" may buy (i) red alone, (ii) green alone, or (iii) both red and green.
 

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