Calculating Simple Harmonic Motion for Thin Disks on a Horizontal Axis

  • Thread starter Thread starter nns91
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Harmonic
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the period of simple harmonic motion for a thin disk and analyzing the forces experienced by a person standing on a scale during the motion of a destroyer's bow. The subject area includes mechanics and dynamics, particularly focusing on rotational motion and oscillations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the formula for the period of oscillation and the moment of inertia for a disk. There are attempts to apply the equations of motion and questions about the correctness of the moment of inertia used. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the axis of rotation and its impact on calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing hints and corrections regarding the moment of inertia and the forces acting on the scale. There is no consensus yet, as multiple interpretations and approaches are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the axis of rotation for the moment of inertia and the implications for the calculations. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the physical setup of the problems.

nns91
Messages
301
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement



1. A thin disk of mass 6kg and radius 20cm is suspended by a horizontal axis perpendicular to the disk through its rim. The disk is displaced slightly from equilibrium and released. Find the period of the subsequent simple harmonic motion.

2. The bow of a destroyer undergoes a simple harmonic vertical pitching motion with a period of 8.0s and an amplitude of 2.0m. An 80 is standing on a scale in the bunkroom in the bow. What are the maximum and minimum readings on the scale ?

Homework Equations



T=2*pi*sqrt(m/k)

The Attempt at a Solution



1. So I used the formula T=2*pi*sqrt(I/mgd). I=(1/2)mr^2 since it is a disk. I plugged in numbers and got 0.63 sec which is wrong. Where did I do wrong ??

2. SO I used F=ma. I found the maximum acceleration to be 1.23 m/s^2. I plugged this in for a. However, I got a wrong answer. How should I fix it. Should I have F= m(g+a) ?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I still get a wrong answer for both of these. Any hints ?
 
nns91 said:
1. So I used the formula T=2*pi*sqrt(I/mgd). I=(1/2)mr^2 since it is a disk. I plugged in numbers and got 0.63 sec which is wrong. Where did I do wrong ??
Your moment of inertia is incorrect.
nns91 said:
Should I have F= m(g+a) ?
Yes. A scale effectively measures the normal reaction force. Therefore, the greatest reading on the scale will be when the man is accelerating upwards.
 
Dont forget that the I moment of inertia depends on the axis about which you choose to rotate the disk ;)

Now 1/2mr^2 is about which axis? and how do you calculate it for an axis on the rim?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 51 ·
2
Replies
51
Views
4K
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
5K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K