Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on the calculation of spacetime around multiple massive objects, specifically addressing the metrics applicable in such scenarios, the challenges posed by non-linearities in general relativity, and methods for approximating gravitational effects. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, numerical solutions, and the implications of different approaches in the context of gravitational time dilation and spacetime warping.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- Some participants propose using the Schwarzschild Metric for single massive bodies but question what metric applies to multiple bodies, noting that no exact solution is known and numerical methods are required.
- It is suggested that gravitational time dilation is not strictly defined in non-stationary spacetimes, and approximating the situation as Newtonian may be a viable approach.
- One participant emphasizes that the non-linear nature of the Einstein field equations prevents simple superposition of solutions, which contrasts with Newtonian gravity.
- Another participant discusses the Einstein-Infeld-Hoffmann equations as a basis for multi-body numerical solutions in weak fields, highlighting the iterative nature of these equations due to their non-linear characteristics.
- There is a discussion on the practical application of these equations, where zero-order Newtonian acceleration is used for approximations, raising questions about the linearization of the equations.
- Some participants note the surprising accuracy of post-Newtonian (PPN) methods in predicting gravitational waveforms, despite the high speeds and significant curvature involved, which raises questions about the validity of certain principles in light of recent theories.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express multiple competing views regarding the appropriate metrics and methods for calculating spacetime around multiple objects, and the discussion remains unresolved on several technical points, particularly concerning the implications of non-linearities and the effectiveness of various approximations.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include the dependence on specific assumptions regarding the nature of the masses involved and the conditions under which approximations are valid. The discussion also highlights unresolved mathematical steps in applying the Einstein-Infeld-Hoffmann equations iteratively.