Calculating Table Force for 77N Box and 30N Weight

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a box weighing 77N resting on a table, with a rope tied to the box running over a pulley to a weight of 30N on the other side. The objective is to determine the force exerted by the table on the box.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up equations based on the forces acting on the box and the weight, but expresses uncertainty about their approach. Other participants question the implications of changing the weight on the other side of the pulley and discuss the nature of the forces involved, particularly the normal force exerted by the table.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the forces acting on the box and the weight. Some guidance has been offered regarding the tension in the rope and how it relates to the forces acting on the box, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the system being at rest, which implies that the forces must balance, but the original poster indicates they may be missing something in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


a box weighing 77N rest on a table. a rope tied to the box runs vertically upward over a pulley and a weight is hung from the other end. determine the force that the table everts on the box if the weight hanging on the other side of the pulley weighs 30N.

(box in on the left n weight on the right hand side of the pulley)


Homework Equations


box
F=mg-T
ma=mg-T
weight
F=T-mg
ma=T-mg

The Attempt at a Solution


i let

T of box= T of weight
mg-ma=ma-mg
2ma=30N + 77N
ma=107N / 2
F=53.5N

(i think i am missing something in the equation)
 
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If the weight hanging opposite the box was 77N, what force would the table exert?
 
i am not sure but i will be guessing its a normal force...
 
The table only exerts a force equal to what is not supported by tension in the rope.

As one of your formulas you have T of box= T of weight. You know that since the system is at rest and the weight is suspended the tension has to be equal to the weight. The tension in the rope is pulling up on the box with a force equal to the weight. The table supports the difference between the weight of the box and the weight of the weight.
 
alright i think i get wat u mean... if i go wrong i will let u know
 

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