Calculating Tarzan's Speed on a Swing: Solving for Velocity in a Physics Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of Tarzan swinging on a vine, with specific parameters including the length of the vine, the angle of inclination, and the acceleration due to gravity. The problem also touches on a related scenario involving a ballistic pendulum experiment.

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the necessity of mass in calculations of speed and kinetic energy. There is mention of using conservation of energy principles, but uncertainty remains about applying these concepts without mass. Some participants also reference similar problems for context.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of energy equation, suggesting it may be relevant to the problem. However, there is no clear consensus or resolution, as participants continue to seek clarity on the application of these concepts.

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Participants note the absence of mass in the problem statement as a constraint, which raises questions about how to proceed with the calculations. There is also mention of homework rules that may limit the information available for solving the problems.

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Homework Statement


Tarzan swings on a 34 m long vine initially inclined at an angle of 41 degrees with the vertical.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2.
What is his speed at the bottom of the swing if he starts from rest?
What is his speed if he pushes off with a speed of 4 m/s?


Homework Equations


w=(f)(d)(cos theta)
w= KEF - KEI

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the work, but how can you possibly find out his speed if a mass is not given? I'm thinking that it might have something to do with the kinetic energy equation, but you need mass for that. I'm not really sure of what to do now. I have a similar question like this, but with a loop-the-loop, which also does not give a mass. Someone please help!
 
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Please help, I am really lost.
 
Maybe someone can help me with a more difficult problem if no one is going to answer anything from above.

A student performs a ballistic pendulum experiment using an apparatus similar to that shown in the figure.
Initially the bullet is fired at the block while the block is at rest (at its lowest swing point). After the bullet hits the block, the block rises to its highest position (3 cm), and continues swinging back and forth.
max height : 3 cm
max height subtend angle: 36.9 degrees
mass of bullet : 99 g
mass of pendulum bob: 825 g
accel of gravity: 9.8 m/s^2

Detrmine the initial speed of the projectile. Answer in units of m/s.
 
bikerkid said:

Homework Statement


Tarzan swings on a 34 m long vine initially inclined at an angle of 41 degrees with the vertical.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2.
What is his speed at the bottom of the swing if he starts from rest?
What is his speed if he pushes off with a speed of 4 m/s?


Homework Equations


w=(f)(d)(cos theta)
w= KEF - KEI

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the work, but how can you possibly find out his speed if a mass is not given? I'm thinking that it might have something to do with the kinetic energy equation, but you need mass for that. I'm not really sure of what to do now. I have a similar question like this, but with a loop-the-loop, which also does not give a mass. Someone please help!
You should instead be looking at the conservation of energy equation (which will include a potential energy term).
 
PhanthomJay said:
You should instead be looking at the conservation of energy equation (which will include a potential energy term).
I know the equation, but I don't understand where you are going with it.
 
Forget it, my peers figured out the equations necessary for the problems I could not answer while I was at work. Thanks anyway.
 

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