Calculating the density of a sphere (uncertainty included)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the density of a solid sphere given its radius and mass, including the consideration of uncertainty in these measurements. The subject area includes concepts from geometry and physics related to density and volume calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method for calculating the volume of the sphere and how to incorporate uncertainty into the density calculation. Questions arise about the application of the uncertainty formula and the meaning of symbols used in the equations.

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Some participants have made calculations for the volume and density but express uncertainty about how to apply the uncertainty formula correctly. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and symbols used in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of significant figures and the conversion of units from centimeters to meters. There is mention of disregarding uncertainty until the end of the calculations, which raises questions about the appropriate approach to uncertainty in this context.

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Homework Statement



The radius of a solid sphere is measured to be (6.30 ± 0.26) cm, and its mass is measured to be (1.81 ± 0.08) kg. Determine the density of the sphere in kilograms per cubic meter and the uncertainty in the density. (Use the correct number of significant figures. Use the following formula to calculate the uncertainty in the density:
Δρ/ρ = Δm/m + 3Δr/r



Homework Equations



Δρ/ρ = Δm/m + 3Δr/r

D = M/V

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm going to assume you use the radius and calculate the volume of a sphere (4/3pi(r^3), and then convert to m^3.

Use the above information to calculate the density, but how does uncertainty come into play here? Do I plug it into the above equations along with the numbers, or do I do it all at the end with one formula?

I'm a newbie at Physics, really trying to improve myself. Don't laugh guys :(
 
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AryRezvani said:

Homework Statement



The radius of a solid sphere is measured to be (6.30 ± 0.26) cm, and its mass is measured to be (1.81 ± 0.08) kg. Determine the density of the sphere in kilograms per cubic meter and the uncertainty in the density. (Use the correct number of significant figures. Use the following formula to calculate the uncertainty in the density:
Δρ/ρ = Δm/m + 3Δr/r

Homework Equations



Δρ/ρ = Δm/m + 3Δr/r

D = M/V

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm going to assume you use the radius and calculate the volume of a sphere (4/3pi(r^3), and then convert to m^3.

Use the above information to calculate the density, but how does uncertainty come into play here? Do I plug it into the above equations along with the numbers, or do I do it all at the end with one formula?

I'm a newbie at Physics, really trying to improve myself. Don't laugh guys :(
Well, give us some results, & we'll comment.
 
SammyS said:
Well, give us some results, & we'll comment.

Alrighty, so I calculated the volume of the sphere and decided to disregard uncertainty until the end of the problem since it has its own formula.

(4/3)*pi*(6.30^3) = 1047.394424 cm^3

Let's just say the results is A

Took A and used dimensional analysis to convert it to m^3

A cm^3 x 1 m^3/1 000 000 cm ^3 = .0010473944

Took the above result and divided it into the mass (1.81), and got 1728 kg/m^3

D = 1728 kg/m^3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A little stumped on the uncertainty formula. What does the P with the curve mean?

And what exactly does it mean by change in P, ect.
 
AryRezvani said:
Alrighty, so I calculated the volume of the sphere and decided to disregard uncertainty until the end of the problem since it has its own formula.

(4/3)*pi*(6.30^3) = 1047.394424 cm^3

Let's just say the results is A

Took A and used dimensional analysis to convert it to m^3

A cm^3 x 1 m^3/1 000 000 cm ^3 = .0010473944

Took the above result and divided it into the mass (1.81), and got 1728 kg/m^3

D = 1728 kg/m^3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A little stumped on the uncertainty formula. What does the P with the curve mean?

And what exactly does it mean by change in P, etc.
Sorry for the tardy reply. :redface:

That's not letter, p. That's Greek letter, ρ (rho) .

ρ in this case is used to represent the density.

So, ρ = m/V. You used the letter, D, for density in your formula, D = M/V.
 

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