Calculating the Extreme Value of a Functional with Given Boundary Conditions

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The discussion focuses on calculating the functional ##A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4y+({y}')^2)dx## with boundary conditions ##y(-1)=1## and ##y(1)=3##. The first part establishes that if ##y## is a linear function, specifically ##y=kx+n##, then the value of the functional is ##A(y)=48##. The second part employs the Euler–Lagrange equation to derive a quadratic function ##y(x)=x^2+x+1##, resulting in an extreme value of ##A(y)=0##. The extreme value represents a minimum of the functional.

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Homework Statement


We have functional ##A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4y+({y}')^2)dx## where ##y\in C^1(\mathbb{R})## and ##y(-1)=1## and ##y(1)=3##.
a) Calculate ##A(y)## if graph for ##y## is line segment.
b) Calculate the extreme value of ##A(y)## for that ##y##. That does it represent?


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a)

Since ##y## is line segment I GUESS it can be written as ##y=kx+n##. The functional is therefore calcualted as:

##A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4y+({y}')^2)dx=A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4kx+4n+16k^2)dx=32k^2+8n##

Because ##y(-1)=1## and ##y(1)=3##, ##k=1## and ##n=2##, so ##A(y)=48##

b)

We have a so called Euler–Lagrange equation. Let's say that ##L=4y+({y}')^2##.

##\frac{\partial L}{\partial y}-\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial {y}'}=0##

##4-2{y}''=0##

##y=x^2+Cx+D##

For ##y(-1)=1## we get an equation saying that ##D=C## and from ##y(1)=3## another one saying ##C+D=2## therefore ##C=D=1##.

So finally ##y(x)=x^2+x+1## and ##A(y)= 0##. ##y(x)## is quadratic function and extreme value of functional represents minimum, i guess?
 
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Homework Statement


We have functional ##A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4y+({y}')^2)dx## where ##y\in C^1(\mathbb{R})## and ##y(-1)=1## and ##y(1)=3##.
a) Calculate ##A(y)## if graph for ##y## is line segment.
b) Calculate the extreme value of ##A(y)## for that ##y##. That does it represent?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



a)

Since ##y## is line segment I GUESS it can be written as ##y=kx+n##.The functional is therefore calcualted as:

##A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4y+({y}')^2)dx=A(y)=\int_{-1}^{1}(4kx+4n+16k^2)dx=32k^2+8n##

Because ##y(-1)=1## and ##y(1)=3##, ##k=1## and ##n=2##, so ##A(y)=48##

b)

We have a so called Euler–Lagrange equation. Let's say that ##L=4y+({y}')^2##.

##\frac{\partial L}{\partial y}-\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial {y}'}=0##

##4-2{y}''=0##

##y=x^2+Cx+D##

For ##y(-1)=1## we get an equation saying that ##D=C## and from ##y(1)=3## another one saying ##C+D=2## therefore ##C=D=1##.

So finally ##y(x)=x^2+x+1## and ##A(y)= 0##.

Are you sure? [itex]4y + (y')^2 = 4x^2 + 4x + 4 + (2x + 1)^2 = 2(2x + 1)^2 + 3 > 0[/itex], so [itex]A(x^2 + x + 1) > 0[/itex].
 
Ahhh, you are right... I made A mistake in my notes.. I used ##4y-({y}')^2##...

Thank you!
 

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