Calculating the flux of a vector field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the flux of a vector field using azimuthal integration and polar coordinates. The initial confusion arose from the limits of integration and the interpretation of the area being calculated, which was mistakenly thought to be a square rather than a circle. The correct integral setup is confirmed as ∫_0^a ∫_0^{√(a²-x²)} xy dy dx, leading to the conclusion that the answer is a²/8. The participants clarified the integration process and the significance of the limits, ultimately resolving the initial doubts.

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Q.18. The flux of the vector field ##\vec{F}=(x+y) \hat{i}+(x-3 y) \hat{j}+x y \hat{k}## through the surface defined by the equation ##x^{2}+y^{2} \leq a^{2}, x>0, y>0##, will be
(a) ##a^{4} / 8##
(b) ##a^{4} / 4##
(c) ##a^{2} / 8##
(d) ##a^{2} / 4##
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##\vec{F}=(x+y) \hat{i}+(x-3 y) \hat{j}+x y \hat{k}##
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The answer is ##\frac{a^2}{8}## and for the love of my life, I don't know how. Can you please help me with this?
 
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\int_S xy dS= \int_0^a r^2 rdr \int_0^\frac{\pi}{2} \sin\theta \cos \theta d\theta
Azimuthal integration gives 1/2.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
\int_S xy dS= \int_0^a r^2 rdr \int_0^\frac{\pi}{2} \sin\theta \cos \theta d\theta
Azimuthal integration gives 1/2.
I am DOUBT! azimuthal integration is a new phrase for me. I think it's the equivalent of what I learnt as integration using spherical co-ordinates, but still, I don't see how you can get 1/2 there. Also, isn't dr 0? We are integrating with radius r as constant (a). We are given a surface x^2 + y^2 \leq a^2
 
I think$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^a xy ~dx~dy$$should actually be$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^{\sqrt {a^2-x^2}} xy~ dy~dx$$
And on 'dimensional' grounds, I think the answer should be a multiple of ##a^4## rather than ##a^2##. So the 'official answer' might be wrong.
 
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I think$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^a xy ~dx~dy$$should actually be$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^{\sqrt {a^2-x^2}} xy~ dy~dx$$
And on 'dimensional' grounds, I think the answer should be a multiple of ##a^4## rather than ##a^2##. So the 'official answer' might be wrong.
can you please explain the limits of the integral more? I mean, I put a as the limit of the integral as it's a part of a circle we are talking about here, why are you putting a different limit?

edit: Damn! Yes! It's a circle we are talking about, I seem to have calculated the area of a square. Yes?
 
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edit: Damn! Yes! It's a circle we are talking about, I seem to have calculated the area of a square. Yes?
Yes!
 
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Slimy0233 said:
can you please explain the limits of the integral more? I mean, I put a as the limit of the integral as it's a part of a circle we are talking about here, why are you putting a different limit?
Draw ##xy## axes and the 1st quadrant.

Draw a thin vertical ‘elementary’ strip of thickness ##dx## for some value of ##x## inside the quadrant. Note:
- the left side of the strip has x-coordinate ##x##;
- the right side of the strip has x-coordinate ##x+dx##;
- the bottom edge of the strip is a has y-coordinate = 0;
- the top edge of the strip has y-coordinate ##\sqrt {a^2-x^2}## (that’s the key point).

When you integrate ##xy## over the elementary strip you get ##\int_{y=0}^{y=\sqrt {a^2-x^2}} xy~ dy~dx##. (Then it remains to integrate the contributions from all the strips.)

Can you take t from there?
 
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Steve4Physics said:
Can you take t from there?
It was very kind of you to explain that well and that much!

I can take it from there, thank you! I managed to solve it.
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