Calculating the points of tangency for two circles given a picture

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The discussion revolves around calculating the points of tangency for two circles of equal radius based on a provided diagram. Participants explore geometric relationships involving tangents and radii.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the radius and the tangent line, questioning the angle formed between them. There are mentions of calculating vectors between the centers of the circles and creating perpendicular vectors to find the tangent points.

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Some participants have provided guidance on vector calculations and geometric properties, while others express a need for further clarification on these concepts. The discussion includes attempts to understand the geometric configuration of the circles and the tangents.

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There is a reference to a specific image that is central to the problem, but details about the image and the exact measurements or positions are not provided in the discussion.

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I have two circles with the same radius and I want to calculate the points of tangency.
For example, in the picture below, I want to calculate [FONT=MathJax_Main]([FONT=MathJax_Math]x[FONT=MathJax_Main]3[FONT=MathJax_Main],[FONT=MathJax_Math]y[FONT=MathJax_Main]3[FONT=MathJax_Main]) and [FONT=MathJax_Main]([FONT=MathJax_Math]x[FONT=MathJax_Main]4[FONT=MathJax_Main],[FONT=MathJax_Math]y[FONT=MathJax_Main]4[FONT=MathJax_Main]). I have the radius and the distance between the two circles as shown below:
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What can be said about the angle between a radius and the tangent line that it touches?
 
You can calculate the vector ##\vec D## between the centers. Can you make a vector perpendicular to it the radius units long to get from the centers to the tangent points?
 
LCKurtz said:
Can you make a vector perpendicular to it the radius units long to get from the centers to the tangent points?

thanks,can you explain me more about what should i do?
 
Villyer said:
What can be said about the angle between a radius and the tangent line that it touches?

i think they are Perpendicular
 
LCKurtz said:
You can calculate the vector ##\vec D## between the centers. Can you make a vector perpendicular to it the radius units long to get from the centers to the tangent points?

arashmobilebo said:
thanks,can you explain me more about what should i do?

I think I just told you. Do you understand vectors? Can you calculate ##\vec D\, ##? Do you know how to make a perpendicular vector?

You have to show some effort.
 
LCKurtz said:
I think I just told you. Do you understand vectors? Can you calculate ##\vec D\, ##? Do you know how to make a perpendicular vector?

You have to show some effort.

Yes I know them!
 
arashmobilebo said:
i think they are Perpendicular

They are.

So consider just the quadrilateral formed by the tangent line, the line connecting the centers, and the two radii that touch the tangent segment.

You know two ends of this figure (the centers of the circles), and the other two points are the two you are interested in.

If you identiy what type of quadrilateral it is, finding the last two points shouldn't be that hard.
 
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That looks like where you got the problem from. Do you understand the work that they did?
 
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Villyer said:
That looks like where you got the problem from. Do you understand the work that they did?

i asked the question there.yes i got it
 

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