Calculating the Torque for a Hand-Driven Merry-Go-Round

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The problem involves calculating the torque required to accelerate a hand-driven merry-go-round, modeled as a uniform disk, while considering the effects of additional mass from children sitting on it. The context includes rotational dynamics and the application of torque equations.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular acceleration and moment of inertia, with attempts to convert frequency to angular velocity. There are questions about the inclusion of additional mass from the children and the correct application of the moment of inertia for the system.

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Some participants have provided guidance on considering the moment of inertia contributions from the children, while others have noted the need for clarity in the problem statement and units. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations and assumptions made in the original attempts.

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Participants are encouraged to clarify numerical values with units and to restate the problem accurately. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly accounting for all masses involved in the system.

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A dad pushes tangentially on a small hand-driven merry-go-round and is able to accelerate it from rest to a frequency of 18 in 13.0 . Assume the merry-go-round is a uniform disk of radius 3.0 and has a mass of 760 , and two children (each with a mass of 21 ) sit opposite each other on the edge.

Calculate the torque required to produce the acceleration, neglecting frictional torque.

What force is required at the edge?



Homework Equations



torque= I alpha
w=2pi f
w=w0+alpha *t

The Attempt at a Solution



change f to w
w= 2pi *.3rev/sec w=1.8849
find alpha
w=w0+ alpha*t 1.8849=alpha*13 alpha = .144997

find I
I= .5 MR^2= 3609
torque= I alpha = 3609*.144997= 523 this answer was incorrect I do not know why I also tried it with I for a hoop the answer was 1046 but this answer was also incorrect if you can tell me where i messed but that would be very helpful thanks
 
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Hi kaite, welcome to PF.

Please add units to all given numerical quantities and restate the problem. Without them it will be difficult to troubleshoot your work.
 
A dad pushes tangentially on a small hand-driven merry-go-round and is able to accelerate it from rest to a frequency of 18 rpm in 13.0 . Assume the merry-go-round is a uniform disk of radius 3.0m and has a mass of 760 kg, and two children (each with a mass of 21kg ) sit opposite each other on the edge.

Calculate the torque required to produce the acceleration, neglecting frictional torque.

What force is required at the edge?



2. Homework Equations

torque= I alpha
w=2pi f
w=w0+alpha *t

3. The Attempt at a Solution

change f to w
w= 2pi *.3rev/sec w=1.8849 rad/sec
find alpha
w=w0+ alpha*t 1.8849=alpha*13 alpha = .144997rad/s^2

find I
I= .5 MR^2= 3609 kg m^2
torque= I alpha = 3609*.144997= 523 N M this answer was incorrect I do not know why I also tried it with I for a hoop the answer was 1046 N M but this answer was also incorrect if you can tell me where i messed but that would be very helpful thanks

The question is what torque is required for this acceleration and what force is required at the edge?
 
Consider the children. They add to the moment of inertia of the system.

Forget the hoop. The problem specifically says that the merry-go-round should be considered as a disk.
 

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