Calculating Third Cosmic Velocity: What Am I Missing?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Heirot
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Velocity
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on calculating the third cosmic velocity needed for a body on Earth's surface to escape both Solar and Terrestrial gravity. The equation presented yields a value of 13 km/s, while most sources cite 16 km/s, leading to questions about potential errors in the calculation. Clarifications indicate that the distance from the Earth to the Sun (R_s) is correctly used, but the vector nature of the velocities may not have been fully accounted for. The conversation highlights that the angle between the Earth's orbital speed and the escape velocity affects the final result. Ultimately, the discrepancy in values stems from differing interpretations of how to combine these velocities.
Heirot
Messages
145
Reaction score
0
... is the minimal speed (relative to the Earth) which must be imparted on a body resting on the Earth's surface to escape the Solar (and Terrestrial) gravity. So, if one uses the conservation of energy (neglecting the Earth's rotation about its axis), one has

1/2 m (v_3 + v_o)^2 = G m (M_s / R_s + M_e / R_e), where

m - mass of the body
M_s/e, R_s/e - mass of the Sun (Earth) and distance from its center to the body
v_3 - third cosmic velocity
v_o - the speed at which the Earth orbits the Sun
G - gravitational constant

Now, this equation gives v3 = 13 km/s, while all the sources cite v3 = 16 km/s. Am I missing something?

Thanks
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Shouldn't your R_s be the distance of the Earth from the Sun?
 
Yes, R_s is the distance form the Sun to the Earth. Anyhow, all other refrences give completely different expression than mine (e.g. Irodov - problem circa 1.230). I think that my energy calculation is ok. Or am I missing something?
 
The sum v_o+v_3 should be a vector sum. Your answer is for the two velocities parallel.
There is a range of answers for v_3, depending on the angle between them.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 43 ·
2
Replies
43
Views
7K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K