Calculating Total Force on Diving Bell's Port

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The problem involves calculating the total force on a circular port of a spherical diving bell submerged at a depth of 121 meters in seawater. The bell is evacuated, and the relevant parameters include the density of seawater and the dimensions of the port.

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate total pressure and force, with some suggesting to neglect atmospheric pressure due to its relative size. Others question this assumption, considering the evacuated state of the bell and the implications for pressure calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to account for atmospheric pressure in the context of the problem. Some participants provide guidance on using known values for pressure and area, while others emphasize the importance of considering the evacuated nature of the bell in their calculations.

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The problem specifies that the diving bell is evacuated, which raises questions about the appropriate treatment of atmospheric pressure in the calculations. Participants are navigating these assumptions and their impact on the solution.

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Homework Statement



An evacuated spherical diving bell containing a camera is in the ocean at a depth of 121 m. It has a flat, transparent, circular port with a diameter of 19.7 cm. Find the magnitude of the total force on the port (use ρseawater) = 1025 kg/m3).

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P(total)= ρgh+P(atm)
A=\piR^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that you need to find the total pressure on the bell. And then i think you have to subtract that total pressure from atmospheric pressure. this is what i have been doing and it is not working correctly. does anyone have any ideas?

Thanx!
 
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Force = pressure x area. You know the pressure of the water at that depth, since density is known. Rest is easy. Atm presssure may be neglected.
 
Just to amplify what Shooting star is saying, the reason you can neglect atmospheric pressure is not because it is terribly small. It's about ten percent of the seawater pressure, but because you should probably assume there is also atmospheric pressure inside of the bell, so it cancels. Just use the rhoseawater they gave you together with the area.
 
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Total force on the port:

pressure/area from seawater on one side
pressure/area from 1atm on the other side
 
Hi Dick,

The problem specifically states that the sphere has been evacuted. So, inside is almost vacuum.

To be realistic then, P_atm should be added to the water pressure, since 1/10 of the water pressure is not really negligible.
 
Shooting star said:
Hi Dick,

The problem specifically states that the sphere has been evacuted. So, inside is almost vacuum.

To be realistic then, P_atm should be added to the water pressure, since 1/10 of the water pressure is not really negligible.

In that case, yes, it should. Sorry, I should read more carefully!
 

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