Fluid Statics/depth in a cylinder

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The problem involves determining the depth of mercury in a cylindrical container filled with water, given the total pressure at the bottom of the cylinder and the dimensions of the cylinder. The subject area is fluid statics.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the pressures of mercury and water, and how to systematically approach the equations involved. There are questions about the substitution of variables and the need for additional information regarding the height of water.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to substitute variables into the pressure equation. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate the heights of mercury and water, with one participant noting the total height of the cylinder as a constraint.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the cylinder is completely filled to the top with water after adding mercury, which influences the relationship between the heights of the two fluids. There is mention of needing to apply Gaussian elimination, indicating a potential complexity in solving the equations.

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Homework Statement


Mercury is added to a cylindrical container to a depth d and then the rest of the cylinder is filled with water. If the cylinder is 0.8 m tall and the pressure at the bottom is 1.3 atmospheres, determine the depth of the mercury. (Assume the density of mercury to be 1.36
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104 kg/m3.)

Homework Equations


Ptotal=Patmosphere+Pwater+Pmercury
P=density x g x height
1 atmosphere=1.013e5 Pa
density of water=1 x 103 kg/m3
pressure of atmosphere=1 atm

The Attempt at a Solution


I first subtracted out the pressure of the atmosphere, so
.3 atm=Pwater + Pmercury
.8m=Hwater + Hmercury
Pmercury=1.36 x 104 x 9.8 x Hmercury
Pwater=1 x 103 x 9.8 x Hwater

I am having difficulty putting all 4 of these equations together. I feel like there is substitution needed, but which equations should I use?
 
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Perhaps you should be more systematic, Starting with your equation
Ptotal=Patmosphere+Pwater+Pmercury
substitute
Pwaterwaterg hwater
Pmercurymercuryg hmercury
and solve for hmercury.
 
tennisgirl92 said:

Homework Statement


Mercury is added to a cylindrical container to a depth d and then the rest of the cylinder is filled with water. If the cylinder is 0.8 m tall and the pressure at the bottom is 1.3 atmospheres, determine the depth of the mercury. (Assume the density of mercury to be 1.36 View attachment 195815 104 kg/m3.)

Homework Equations


Ptotal=Patmosphere+Pwater+Pmercury
P=density x g x height
1 atmosphere=1.013e5 Pa
density of water=1 x 103 kg/m3
pressure of atmosphere=1 atm

The Attempt at a Solution


I first subtracted out the pressure of the atmosphere, so
.3 atm=Pwater + Pmercury
.8m=Hwater + Hmercury
Pmercury=1.36 x 104 x 9.8 x Hmercury
Pwater=1 x 103 x 9.8 x Hwater

I am having difficulty putting all 4 of these equations together. I feel like there is substitution needed, but which equations should I use?
You have 4 linear algebraic equations in 4 unknowns. Are you familiar with Gaussian elimination?
 
kuruman said:
Perhaps you should be more systematic, Starting with your equation
Ptotal=Patmosphere+Pwater+Pmercury
substitute
Pwaterwaterg hwater
Pmercurymercuryg hmercury
and solve for hmercury.

Ok, if I do that
.3atm=(1000 x 9.8 x Hwater) + (1.36 x 104 x 9.8 x Hmercury)
I still need to find the height of water, right? Where would that come from?
 
Chestermiller said:
You have 4 linear algebraic equations in 4 unknowns. Are you familiar with Gaussian elimination?
No, never heard of that. What is Gaussian elimination?
 
tennisgirl92 said:
I still need to find the height of water, right? Where would that come from?
Since the cylinder is filled to the top,
Height of water = height of cylinder - height of mercury
 
kuruman said:
Since the cylinder is filled to the top,
Height of water = height of cylinder - height of mercury

thank you! Got it!
 

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