Calculating Vector Components: Finding B_y with A-B Parallel to -x Axis

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Homework Statement



The diagram below shows two vectors, A and B, and their angles relative to the coordinate axes as indicated.

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DATA: α=43.7°; β=53.4°; |A|=4.30 cm. The vector A−B is parallel to the −x axis. Calculate the y-component of vector B.

Homework Equations



[itex]A_x = |A| cos \theta, A_y = |A| sin \theta[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I easily found that [itex]A_x = 4.30 cm cos(43.7) = 3.10 cm[/itex] and [itex]A_y = 4.30 cm sin(43.7) = 2.97 cm[/itex].

The problem I'm having is figuring out how to calculate [itex]B_x[/itex] with only the information I have. If I had [itex]|B|[/itex] then I could easily solve for [itex]B_x[/itex]. The problem states that [itex]\vec{A-B} || -x-axis[/itex], but what role does this play in solving the problem?
 
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Try drawing a picture. It can be very difficult to sort this sort of thing without a good reference.

The key to this problem is the statement that [itex]\vec{A} - \vec{B}[/itex] is // to the -x axis. What does it mean if a vector is parallel to an axis? Also, how do you subtract two vectors? If you can answer these two questions, you should be able to figure out By.
 
A vector being parallel to an axis can tell you something about it's direction. In this case, the vector is parallel to the -x axis. Is the fact that it's parallel to the negative x-axis (as opposed to the positive x axis) important here? If so then that means that [itex]\theta_{A-B} = 180 deg[/itex].

When you subtract a vector [itex]\vec{A}[/itex] from another vector [itex]\vec{B}[/itex], you are essentially adding the negative of [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] to [itex]\vec{A}[/itex].

So, from this I gather that [itex]\theta_{A-B} = 180 deg[/itex], but I'm still having trouble seeing how that helps me find [itex]B_y[/itex]. To find [itex]B_y[/itex], I need to find the magnitude of [itex]B[/itex], don't I?
 
A vector being parallel to an axis can tell you something about it's direction. In this case, the vector is parallel to the -x axis. Is the fact that it's parallel to the negative x-axis (as opposed to the positive x axis) important here? If so then that means that [itex]\theta_{A-B} = 180 deg[/itex].

When you subtract a vector [itex]\vec{A}[/itex] from another vector [itex]\vec{B}[/itex], you are essentially adding the negative of [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] to [itex]\vec{A}[/itex].

So, from this I gather that [itex]\theta_{A-B} = 180 deg[/itex], but I'm still having trouble seeing how that helps me find [itex]B_y[/itex]. To find [itex]B_y[/itex], I need to find the magnitude of [itex]B[/itex], don't I?
 
jamesbrewer said:
A vector being parallel to an axis can tell you something about it's direction. In this case, the vector is parallel to the -x axis. Is the fact that it's parallel to the negative x-axis (as opposed to the positive x axis) important here? If so then that means that [itex]\theta_{A-B} = 180 deg[/itex].

Technically, the positive x-axis and neg x-axis would both be parallel. The fact that the problem specifies the negative is suggestive, but I would ask the professor if I were you. There's a more important point here though, and it has to do with how you subtract vectors.

jamesbrewer said:
When you subtract a vector [itex]\vec{A}[/itex] from another vector [itex]\vec{B}[/itex], you are essentially adding the negative of [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] to [itex]\vec{A}[/itex].

Remember that you have to perform algebraic operations on the components of vectors. [itex]\vec{A} - \vec{B}[/itex] is not the same as [itex]\vec{A-B}[/itex]. So, if [itex]\vec{A} - \vec{B}[/itex] is parallel to an axis, what does that tell you about the components? If your having a problem with this, I suggest drawing a picture or going over vector calculus (search the web, look to your textbooks or ask your professor).