Calculating Vector Components: Finding B_y with A-B Parallel to -x Axis

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the y-component of vector B given two vectors A and B, with the condition that the vector A−B is parallel to the −x axis. The angles and magnitude of vector A are provided, but the magnitude of vector B is not known.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the vector A−B being parallel to the −x axis and how this affects the calculation of B_y. There is an emphasis on understanding vector subtraction and the significance of direction.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between the vectors and questioning how the parallel condition influences the components of the vectors. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of vector direction and the need for visual aids, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps for solving the problem.

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There is a noted lack of information regarding the magnitude of vector B, which is critical for finding B_y. Participants are also considering the importance of the specified direction of the vector A−B.

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Homework Statement



The diagram below shows two vectors, A and B, and their angles relative to the coordinate axes as indicated.

[URL]http://loncapa.physics.mun.ca/res/mun/PHYSICS/msuphysicslib/Graphics/Gtype07/prob01a_vectors2.gif[/URL]

DATA: α=43.7°; β=53.4°; |A|=4.30 cm. The vector A−B is parallel to the −x axis. Calculate the y-component of vector B.

Homework Equations



A_x = |A| cos \theta, A_y = |A| sin \theta

The Attempt at a Solution



I easily found that A_x = 4.30 cm cos(43.7) = 3.10 cm and A_y = 4.30 cm sin(43.7) = 2.97 cm.

The problem I'm having is figuring out how to calculate B_x with only the information I have. If I had |B| then I could easily solve for B_x. The problem states that \vec{A-B} || -x-axis, but what role does this play in solving the problem?
 
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Try drawing a picture. It can be very difficult to sort this sort of thing without a good reference.

The key to this problem is the statement that \vec{A} - \vec{B} is // to the -x axis. What does it mean if a vector is parallel to an axis? Also, how do you subtract two vectors? If you can answer these two questions, you should be able to figure out By.
 
A vector being parallel to an axis can tell you something about it's direction. In this case, the vector is parallel to the -x axis. Is the fact that it's parallel to the negative x-axis (as opposed to the positive x axis) important here? If so then that means that \theta_{A-B} = 180 deg.

When you subtract a vector \vec{A} from another vector \vec{B}, you are essentially adding the negative of \vec{B} to \vec{A}.

So, from this I gather that \theta_{A-B} = 180 deg, but I'm still having trouble seeing how that helps me find B_y. To find B_y, I need to find the magnitude of B, don't I?
 
A vector being parallel to an axis can tell you something about it's direction. In this case, the vector is parallel to the -x axis. Is the fact that it's parallel to the negative x-axis (as opposed to the positive x axis) important here? If so then that means that \theta_{A-B} = 180 deg.

When you subtract a vector \vec{A} from another vector \vec{B}, you are essentially adding the negative of \vec{B} to \vec{A}.

So, from this I gather that \theta_{A-B} = 180 deg, but I'm still having trouble seeing how that helps me find B_y. To find B_y, I need to find the magnitude of B, don't I?
 
jamesbrewer said:
A vector being parallel to an axis can tell you something about it's direction. In this case, the vector is parallel to the -x axis. Is the fact that it's parallel to the negative x-axis (as opposed to the positive x axis) important here? If so then that means that \theta_{A-B} = 180 deg.

Technically, the positive x-axis and neg x-axis would both be parallel. The fact that the problem specifies the negative is suggestive, but I would ask the professor if I were you. There's a more important point here though, and it has to do with how you subtract vectors.

jamesbrewer said:
When you subtract a vector \vec{A} from another vector \vec{B}, you are essentially adding the negative of \vec{B} to \vec{A}.

Remember that you have to perform algebraic operations on the components of vectors. \vec{A} - \vec{B} is not the same as \vec{A-B}. So, if \vec{A} - \vec{B} is parallel to an axis, what does that tell you about the components? If your having a problem with this, I suggest drawing a picture or going over vector calculus (search the web, look to your textbooks or ask your professor).
 

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