Calculating Vector Components: X & Y

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The discussion revolves around calculating the x and y components of vectors based on their angles in a Cartesian coordinate system. Participants are exploring the relationships between the angles and the corresponding trigonometric functions used to determine these components.

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  • Participants are questioning the use of sine and cosine functions for determining vector components, with some asserting that the x component should be derived from sine, while others argue for cosine based on the angle's reference point. There is also a discussion about the absence of an angle in the provided diagram and how that affects the calculations.

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The discussion is active with various interpretations being explored regarding the correct trigonometric relationships for the vector components. Some participants are providing reasoning based on standard practices in vector decomposition, while others are challenging these assumptions based on the specifics of the diagram.

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There is mention of a diagram that is not visible to all participants, which may be contributing to the confusion regarding the angles and their reference points. Additionally, the discussion includes references to standard trigonometric functions and identities, suggesting a reliance on foundational concepts in trigonometry.

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For the vectors in the picture, we're supposed to break down each vector into its x and y components. I don't understand why the x component is given by cos(theta). It seems like it should be sin(theta) to me
 

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While waiting for approval, let's assume a Cartesian (x,y) coordinate system with x-axis horizontal and y-axis vertical with positive coordinate in upper right quadrant.

Take F to be in the right half, either above or below. If the angle [itex]\theta[/itex] between F and the x-axis, then the component Fx would be given by F cos [itex]\theta[/itex]. If however, the angle was taken from the y-axis, then Fx would be given by sin [itex]\theta[/itex].

With respect to F, Fx, Fy, think of F as the hypotenuse of a triangle and Fx and Fy as the legs, and then apply the Pythagorean theorem, i.e. appropriate trigonometric relationship.
 
The x components are gven by the sine of the respective angles in the diagram you showed. Who said otherwise?
 
The x component of either vector cannot be [itex]sin(\theta)[/itex] or [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex]. There is no [itex]\theta[/itex] in the picture!

If, as is often done- but not in this picture, [itex]\theta[/itex] is measured from the positive x-axis, then the x component of the vector would be given by the length of the vector times [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex].
 
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