Calculating Velocity on an Incline Slide

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a 75 kg object sliding down a frictionless incline that is 10 m tall. The original poster seeks to determine the speed of the object at the halfway mark and at the bottom of the slide, starting from rest.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the equation v2f - v2i = 2as, questioning the correct interpretation of displacement along the slope and the relationship between height and the hypotenuse. There are attempts to isolate variables and clarify the definitions of s and h in the context of the incline.

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Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth regarding the calculations and interpretations of the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered on isolating variables and determining acceleration, while multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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There is an expressed frustration with online learning formats, indicating that some participants feel the material is challenging to grasp. The discussion includes a mix of confidence and uncertainty regarding the calculations being performed.

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Homework Statement


A 75KG object, goes down a slide that is 10m tall. What is the speed of the object at the halfway mark and the speed at the bottom of the slide. The object starts at rest and there is no friction.

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v2f - v2i = 2as3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
attached pic of where I am at on the problem
incline:velocity.jpg
 
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You have the equation: v2f - v2i = 2as. Note that s is the displacement along the slope now. How long is it in terms of the angle if the height of the slope is 10 m?
 
ehild said:
You have the equation: v2f - v2i = 2as. Note that s is the displacement along the slope now. How long is it in terms of the angle if the height of the slope is 10 m?
sinθ=(10/h)
h equaling the hypotenuse = the slope
 
No, h=10 m, and s is the hypotenuse. Look at the picture.
 
ehild said:
No, h=10 m, and s is the hypotenuse. Look at the picture.
ok so,

sin(θ)=(10/s)
 
Isolate s and use it in the equation v2f - v2i = 2as.
 
so to isolate s, do you mean something like this?

s=10sin(θ)
 
keithcuda said:
so to isolate s, do you mean something like this?

s=10sin(θ)
Something like that, but not quite. Is it more clear if I say solve the equation sin(θ)=(10/s) for s?
 
ehild said:
Something like that, but not quite. Is it more clear if I say solve the equation sin(θ)=(10/s) for s?
more like this?
s=10/sin(θ)

I'm sorry, this stuff has me so confused... These online classes aren't really meeting my expectations. :(
 
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Yes.
Determine the acceleration a now.
 
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ehild said:
Yes.
Determine the acceleration a now.
well, acceleration = gsin(θ)
so, (9.81)sin(θ)=a
 
  • #12
Use a and s in the formula v2f - v2i = 2as.
 
  • #13
well v2i = 0 since the object starts at rest
v2f = 2((9.81)sin(θ)) (10/sin(θ))
 
  • #14
Good! Evaluate.
 
  • #15
I'm not sure if this is right, but it's a shot in the dark...

v2f =2 ((9.81)sin(θ) (10/sin(θ))
umm? sin(θ) cancels out on each side leaving, 2(9.81)(10) = 196.2
v2f = 196.2
vf = √196.2 = 14m/s

is this even close?
 
  • #16
It is correct. That is the speed at the bottom of the slope when the whole length is covered. What is the speed, when the object is halfway down the slope?
 
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ehild said:
It is correct. That is the speed at the bottom of the slope when the whole length is covered. What is the speed, when the object is halfway down the slope?
lol i would say half of that? Thats just me guessing...
 
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keithcuda said:
lol i would say half of that? Thats just me guessing...
NO! what is the new distance s(half) if it is half the previous one?
 
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ehild said:
NO! what is the new distance s(half) if it is half the previous one?
haha I knew it wouldn't be that easy ;)

v2f = 2 * 9.81(10 * .5)
vf = √98.1
vf = 9.9m/s
 
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You did it!
 
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I feel the need to celebrate!
Thank you very much!

When I started this class, I really thought it would be one of my favorite subjects. I like it, but it really has me scratching my head.

I greatly appreciate it!
Merry Christmas!

Cheers!
 
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Merry Christmas to you, too. :)
 

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