Calculating work done by a spring when stretched

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a spring when it is stretched beyond its equilibrium position, using a nonlinear force equation that includes both linear and cubic terms. The specific parameters of the spring are provided, and the problem requires the answer in milli-joules.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the integration of the force equation to find the work done, questioning the sign of the result and its physical interpretation. There is also discussion about the applicability of the Hooke's law equation for potential energy in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the work done by the spring versus the work done by the person stretching it. There is recognition of the need to clarify the interpretation of the results, particularly regarding units and the sign of the work calculated.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge posed by the nonlinear characteristics of the spring and the ambiguity surrounding the elastic limit mentioned in the problem statement. The requirement for the answer in milli-joules adds a layer of complexity to the calculations.

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Homework Statement



At a certain point, when a spring is stretched near its elastic limit, the spring force satisfies the equation

F = −α x + β x3 , where α = 12 N/m and β = 890 N/m3 .

Calculate the work done by the spring when it is stretched from its equilibrium position to 0.15 m past its equilibrium.
Answer in units of mJ.

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The Attempt at a Solution



since this is a nonlinear curve i thought that the area under the curve would equal the work done by the spring at the .15 m

so i integrated and got

-6x2 + 222.5x4

since the spring is starting at the equilibrium position, initial position is 0 and final position is .15m so

-6(.15)2+222.5(.15)4 = -.02235

this doesn't make sense since we are pulling the spring and the work should be positive right?
 
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Yeah, but the problem asks for the work done by the spring, not the work done by the person pulling it.
 
ok so maybe its negative because the spring would be working to go back to its equilibrium position. My answer is wrong though, what am i doing wrong?

am i right in my approach? i really can't think of another way of going about it...

a hint would be very nice
 
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if work = 1/2kx^2 then all i need to find is the constant k given the information... i don't see how i can do this because i don't know x for the given equation, it just tells me that its near its elastic limit
 
Work (actually, potential energy) does not equal 1/2 kx^2 in this case. That equation applies only when F = -kx per Hookes law. This spring does not follow that law. Your original solution looks correct to me, except you answered in joules , but the problem asked for the answer in milli-joules (mJ).
-0.02235 J = ____?____ mJ ? (round it off to the nearest whole number).
 
-22.35. Thanks a lot, I can't believe I didn't see that.
 

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