Work done by a force on a spring

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The problem involves calculating the work done by a force on a spring as it is stretched from its unstressed length. The spring constant is given, and the change in length is specified. The context is rooted in the principles of mechanics, particularly in relation to springs and work-energy concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of force and work, questioning the assumption of constant force during the stretching of the spring. There is mention of integrating force over distance to find work done, and some participants express uncertainty about why this integration is necessary.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided hints regarding the nature of the force applied to the spring, while others have clarified the relationship between force and work in the context of varying forces.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the spring being on a frictionless surface and anchored at one end, which may influence the assumptions about forces involved. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of integrating force over distance, indicating a deeper exploration of the underlying physics principles.

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Homework Statement


The unstretched length of a spring with 'k' = 250 N/m is 20 cm. A force 'F' is applied to stretch it to a length of 24 cm. How much work was done by 'F'?

Answer : 0.2 Nm

Homework Equations


F = k * delta x
Work = F * delta x

The Attempt at a Solution


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change in spring length is 4cm = 0.04m
F = 250 N/m * (0.04m)

F = 10 N/m

Work = 10 N/m * 0.04m = 0.4

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong

Thanks in advance
 
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Hint: Consider whether or not the force remained constant throughout the stretching of the spring.
 
gneill said:
Hint: Consider whether or not the force remained constant throughout the stretching of the spring.
ah your referring to gravity?
 
kolleamm said:
ah your referring to gravity?
No, say the spring was horizontal on a frictionless surface and anchored at one end. Now you start pulling on the free end to stretch it. Initally the force required is zero since the spring starts out relaxed. By the time you reach 4 cm of stretch, how much force is required? How about at somewhere between those two points?
 
gneill said:
No, say the spring was horizontal on a frictionless surface and anchored at one end. Now you start pulling on the free end to stretch it. Initally the force required is zero since the spring starts out relaxed. By the time you reach 4 cm of stretch, how much force is required? How about at somewhere between those two points?
Ah I see, I did the integral of the force from 0 to 0.04 and I got the answer.

int 0 : 0.04 , 250x = 250/2(x^2)
125 (0.04)^2 = 0.2

Although I'm still unsure why the integral of force equals the work done
 
kolleamm said:
Although I'm still unsure why the integral of force equals the work done
work = force x distance

You integrated the force over the distance. ##Work = \int \, F\, dx##
 
kolleamm said:
Although I'm still unsure why the integral of force equals the work done
"Work=force x distance" is only valid when the force is constant over the distance. (If it were not, how would you know which value of the force to use?)
If the force is varying we can break the distance into small pieces, ds, and take the force to be approximately constant over each. For each piece, the work done is approximately the product F(s).ds. Adding these up and taking the limit as we make the pieces smaller and smaller yields the integral ∫F.ds.
 
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Thanks for the expansion of the explanation @haruspex , I really shouldn't be so lazy with my replies :sorry:
 

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