Chemistry Calculation of molar conductance at infinite dilution

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The discussion centers on the calculation of molar conductance at infinite dilution, specifically questioning the addition of molar conductivity, an intensive property. Participants debate whether intensive properties can be added, referencing the relationship between total pressure and partial pressures in gas mixtures. It is clarified that while intensive properties cannot be directly summed, they can be related through specific contexts, such as mole fractions. The conversation highlights confusion surrounding the definitions and applications of intensive versus extensive properties. The complexity of these concepts is acknowledged, suggesting that the division between them may not be as clear-cut as it seems.
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At25C, the molar conductances at infinite
dilution for the strong electrolytes
NaOH, NaCl and BaCl2are
248x10^-4,126x10^-4 and
280x 10^-4Sm mol1 respectively,
XmBa(OH)2 in Sm mol-1 is
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Using algebra
The answer given is 524*10^4. The process used is by adding/subtracting the values given. But my concern is that isn't molar conductivity an intensive property? And it hence can't be added. So how is it added and the answer obtained.
 
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Who says intensive properties can't be added? How is the total pressure of a gas mixture related to the partial pressures of its components?
 
mjc123 said:
Who says intensive properties can't be added? How is the total pressure of a gas mixture related to the partial pressures of its components?
Partial pressure times the mole fraction is added to get total pressure. Not partial pressure separately. Intensive properties can't directly algebraically be added so why is it here?
 
Not so. If the partial pressure of oxygen is 0.2 bar, and the partial pressure of nitrogen is 0.8 bar, the total pressure is 1 bar.

You are perhaps thinking of Pi = xiPtot
But Ptot = P1 + P2
= x1Ptot + x2Ptot

But Ptot ≠ x1P1 + x2P2
 
Oh you're right but why does my textbook and even google say that intensive properties (like electrode potential) can't be algebraically added or subtracted
 

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Without a context, I can't say.
 
Looks a bit like answer from ChatGPT: definitive, authoritative, polite - and incorrect :wink:
 
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Borek said:
Looks a bit like answer from ChatGPT: definitive, authoritative, polite - and incorrect :wink:
Do you mean intensive properties can be added? If yes, what are the conditions?
 
Zayan said:
Do you mean intensive properties can be added? If yes, what are the conditions?

From the quick googling you are not the first to ask that question and the discussion is not new, problem is with the division extensive/intensive which is not as good and clear as it sounds to be. Compare Redlich, "Intensive and Extensive Properties" J. Chem. Educ., 1970, 47 (2), 154–156 (can be found as a downloadable pdf).
 
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