Calculation of Peak Impact force

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the calculation of peak impact force in a drop weight impact testing machine, specifically in the context of measuring the crashworthiness of structures. Participants explore theoretical approaches to estimate peak impact force without the use of load cells, focusing on the implications of using a derived equation based on static deflection and drop height.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the equation Impact Force = W √ 2h / δst to calculate peak impact force, where W is the drop weight, h is the drop height, and δst is the static deflection.
  • Another participant questions whether simple accelerometers could be used instead of load cells, suggesting an alternative method for measuring impact force.
  • A participant mentions the cost of data acquisition systems for accelerometers, indicating a preference for a simpler and more affordable experimental setup.
  • One participant discusses the assumptions involved in approximating peak impact force, including impulse-momentum, elastic collision, and work-kinetic energy, while noting the presence of unknowns such as peak force and peak deformation.
  • There is a request for clarification on the assumptions made regarding material behavior and whether the proposed equation is empirical or based on other principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and accuracy of the proposed theoretical approach to calculating peak impact force. There is no consensus on the validity of the assumptions or the effectiveness of the equation presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations related to assumptions about material behavior, the nature of the impact, and the accuracy of the theoretical model in comparison to empirical measurements.

Karan Ratan
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I am a M-tech student working on a project of Drop weight impact testing machine for measuring the crashworthiness of structure. As it will be a lab-scale model, the budget doesn't allow me to include load cells for measuring peak impact force by load-displacement graph.
I am planning to calculate Average impact force as per the deformation obtained in specimen but
for getting the peak impact force(Elastic response) by theoretical approach, can i use the following equation

Impact Force = W √ 2h / δst
Where W = drop weight in N
h = drop height in m
δst = deflection when that drop weight is statically applied in m
Whether this theoretical calculation instead of load cell arrangement can yield me a comparable result of peak impact force ?
 
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Karan Ratan said:
I am a M-tech student working on a project of Drop weight impact testing machine for measuring the crashworthiness of structure. As it will be a lab-scale model, the budget doesn't allow me to include load cells for measuring peak impact force by load-displacement graph.
I am planning to calculate Average impact force as per the deformation obtained in specimen but
for getting the peak impact force(Elastic response) by theoretical approach, can i use the following equation

Impact Force = W √ 2h / δst
Where W = drop weight in N
h = drop height in m
δst = deflection when that drop weight is statically applied in m
Whether this theoretical calculation instead of load cell arrangement can yield me a comparable result of peak impact force ?

Welcome to the PF.

Are you saying that you cannot use simple accelerometers in this setup?
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Are you saying that you cannot use simple accelerometers in this setup?


I can use accelerometers but the data acquisition system required to get the readings can cost me. I am trying to keep my project as simple as possible so that it can be affordable for engineering college as an experimental setup of drop ωeight impact test to replace the charpy impact test ωhich can do the charpy impact test, crashωorthiness test and even penetration test.
 
I've seen approximations of peak impact force like you are describing, where one makes a couple of basic assumptions -- namely, impulse-momentum, assuming a perfectly elastic collision, along with work-kinetic energy, assuming a triangular pulse shape. Still too many unknowns. These unknowns are peak force, time duration, peak deformation.

I understand that you will be measuring the static deformation as well. So I assume that additional assumptions you've made include linear material behavior and material properties that are independent of rate effects. Is that more or less correct? Did any other assumptions go into your equation? Am I totally off base here and your equation is actually empirical?
 

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