Calculation of permissible error in physical quantity

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The discussion revolves around calculating the permissible error in a physical quantity derived from the multiplication of two measured values, A and B, each with associated uncertainties. The specific quantities are A = 25.0 ± 0.5 m/s and B = 0.10 ± 0.01 s, leading to the calculation of C = A × B.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the rules governing significant figures in multiplication and how they apply to the calculation of C. They explore the propagation of uncertainty and question the calculation of ΔC, particularly focusing on how to report the permissible error after rounding.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the calculations related to ΔC, with some participants questioning the accuracy of the initial calculations and the rules for reporting significant figures. The conversation reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the mathematical process and the rules of significant figures without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of significant figure rules in the context of error reporting, indicating a need for clarity on how to handle rounding in the final results.

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Homework Statement


I have doubt in calculating the permissible error. It goes as follows
Measure of two quantities along with the precision of respective measuring instrument is
A = 25.0 ± 0.5 m/s, B = 0.10 ± 0.01 s. A physical quantity C is calculated as C = A × B. What will be the value of C along with permissible error

Homework Equations


\frac { ΔC } {C} = \Big ( {\frac { ΔA } {A} + \frac {Δ B} {B} } \Big )<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


STEP 1.
In the literature it is clearly mention that number of significant figures in result C is governed by the following rule.
"In multiplication or division, the final result should retain as many significant figures as are there in the original number with smallest number of significant figures."
Going by this rule C= 25.0 x 0.10 = 2.50 m = 2.5 m (rounding off to two significant figures).

STEP 2.
\frac { ΔC } {C} = \Big ( {\frac { ΔA } {A} + \frac {Δ B} {B} } \Big ) = \Big ( {\frac { 0.5 } {25.0} + \frac {Δ0.01} {0.10} } \Big ) =<br /> 0.2 + 0.1 = 0.3<br />
ΔC = 0.3 × 2.5 =0.75 m
However, to what the significant figures after rounding off, the permissible error ΔC should be reported. Should ΔC=0.75m or 0.7m or something else What is the rule governing this?
 
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Abhishek Gupta said:

Homework Statement


I have doubt in calculating the permissible error. It goes as follows
Measure of two quantities along with the precision of respective measuring instrument is
A = 25.0 ± 0.5 m/s, B = 0.10 ± 0.01 s. A physical quantity C is calculated as C = A × B. What will be the value of C along with permissible error

Homework Equations


\frac { ΔC } {C} = \Big ( {\frac { ΔA } {A} + \frac {Δ B} {B} } \Big )<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


STEP 1.
In the literature it is clearly mention that number of significant figures in result C is governed by the following rule.
"In multiplication or division, the final result should retain as many significant figures as are there in the original number with smallest number of significant figures."
Going by this rule C= 25.0 x 0.10 = 2.50 m = 2.5 m (rounding off to two significant figures).

STEP 2.
\frac { ΔC } {C} = \Big ( {\frac { ΔA } {A} + \frac {Δ B} {B} } \Big ) = \Big ( {\frac { 0.5 } {25.0} + \frac {Δ0.01} {0.10} } \Big ) =<br /> 0.2 + 0.1 = 0.3<br />
However, to what the significant figures after rounding off, the permissible error ΔC should be reported. Should ΔC=0.75m or 0.7m or something else What is the rule governing this?
Have you made an error in (ΔA)/A ?
 
SammyS said:
Have you made an error in (ΔA)/A ?
Respected Sir
With all due respect I did n't get you
 
Abhishek Gupta said:
Respected Sir
With all due respect I did n't get you
It was a very direct question.

Restated: What is 0.5/25 ?
 
SammyS said:
It was a very direct question.

Restated: What is 0.5/25 ?

I apologize for the error . I have corrected it below.
STEP 2.

\frac { ΔC } {C} = \Big ( {\frac { ΔA } {A} + \frac {Δ B} {B} } \Big ) = \Big ( {\frac { 0.5 } {25.0} + \frac {Δ0.01} {0.10} } \Big ) =<br /> <br /> 0.02 + 0.1 = 0.12<br /> <br />
ΔC = 0.12 × 2.5 =0.30 m
However, to what the significant figures after rounding off should the permissible error ΔC be reported. Should ΔC=0.30m or 0.3m or something else What is the rule governing this?
 

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