Calculation of the magnetic field of four quarter circles

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field at the center of four quarter circles using the Biot-Savart law. Participants express concern that the problem may be too complex for someone unfamiliar with simpler Biot-Savart problems, emphasizing the need for a solid understanding of current flow and magnetic field principles. There is a suggestion that solving this problem might require advanced techniques like numerical integration or elliptic integrals, making it unsuitable for beginners. The conversation highlights the importance of mastering foundational concepts in physics and mathematics before tackling more challenging problems. Overall, the problem is deemed difficult and requires careful consideration of both physics and mathematical methods.
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Homework Statement
Calculate the magnetic field that four quarter circles produce . The The quarter circles are equidistant from each other by 50 mm and are located at the vertices of a square. The current is 1 A, and the radius of each quarter circle is 10 mm.Also, determine the direction of the magnetic flux lines.
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Bio-Savart Law for current loop
The diagram is something like this, and I want to calculate the magnetic field at the center using the Biot-Savart law. In this case, do the magnetic fields formed by the quarter circles pairwise alternate with each other?
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Please, show us your attempt.
 
You haven't how current flows. Anyway, the B's can't lie on the plane
 
yes sorry , I have no idea how to calculate this , can you help me ?
 
Consider that the current flows anticlockwise in each loop
 
Where do we have to calculate the field ?
 
at the center of all the quarters
 
Try to write Biot's law for just one quarter but do not integrate yet.
 
Hi @katarameno. Welcome to PF. As you've probably already realised, the forum rules mean we don't solve problems for you; we try to guide you to do it for yourself. Forum rules are here.

IMO the problem is pretty difficult and is not suitable for someone who isn't already confident with simpler Biot-Savart problems, So when you say
katarameno said:
I have no idea how to calculate this
that's worrying.

What course/level are you? Have you done other (simpler) Biot-Savart problems?

And are you certain that you have the current directions correct - all anticlockwise?

If you aren't familiar with using the Biot-Savart law, look at some worked problems. For example finding the field due to a square loop is explained in this video. You need at least that level of knowledge to tackle your problem.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
IMO the problem is pretty difficult and is not suitable for someone who isn't already confident with simpler Biot-Savart problems, So when you say
But now that the question has been asked,
Is it even possible to solve this by using only Biot-Savarts Law and Ampere's Circuital Law?
 
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Aurelius120 said:
But now that the question has been asked,
Is it even possible to solve this by using only Biot-Savarts Law and Ampere's Circuital Law?
It's certainly possible in principle with the Biot-Savart law. But I suspect something messy like an elliptic integral or numerical integration. would be needed. If so, the problem is unsuitable for a student meeting the Biot-Savart law for the first time - which, from the OP's posts, sounds like like the situation.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
It's certainly possible in principle with the Biot-Savart law. But I suspect something messy like an elliptic integral or numerical integration. would be needed. If so, the problem is unsuitable for a student meeting the Biot-Savart law for the first time - which, from the OP's posts, sounds like like the situation.
So more of a maths question than a physics one?
 
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Aurelius120 said:
So more of a maths question than a physics one?
Can't really answer that! Maybe it's better to think holistically - dealing with the maths is an essential part of the process of doing physics.
 
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