Calculations of how much water evaporated and what is left

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the calculation of water evaporation when heat is added to a given mass of water. Participants explore the thermal dynamics of heating and phase change, specifically focusing on the energy required to heat water to boiling and subsequently evaporate it.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the total energy required to heat and evaporate all 300 grams of water, arriving at a value of 778653 J, and attempts to use a ratio to find the remaining water after adding 350 kJ of heat.
  • Another participant points out that the heating of water to 100 °C is independent of the amount evaporated, suggesting that the calculation should consider the total heat used for heating first, then the excess for evaporation.
  • A third participant calculates the energy used to heat the water to 100 °C as 100320 J, then determines the remaining energy for evaporation and calculates the amount of water that can evaporate, resulting in 190 grams left after evaporation.
  • A later reply acknowledges the logic of the third participant's calculations but does not verify the numerical accuracy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct method for solving the problem, with differing approaches to the calculations and interpretations of the heat transfer involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly about the independence of heating and evaporation processes. There are also unresolved numerical details in the calculations presented.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and individuals interested in thermodynamics, heat transfer, and phase changes in water, particularly in the context of homework or academic exercises.

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Homework Statement


Suppose you put a coffee pot containing 300 g of water at 20 C on the stove. You then add 350 kJ of heat to the water, which heats the water to 100 C and the water starts to boil. After all the heat is added to the water, then how much water do you still have left? The heat of fusion for water is 6.01 kJ/mol and the heat of vaporization is 40.7 kJ/mol.


Homework Equations



q=mass(specific heat)(Tf-Ti); q=moles(delta-enthalpy)

The Attempt at a Solution


I first found how much energy it would take to evaporate all of the 300 grams. (100-20)(300g)(4.18) + (40.7 KJ)(300)(1mol/18g)(1000J)= 778653 J. So I then set up a ratio that if 778653 evaporates 300 grams then how many grams will 350000 J evaporate. 778653/300 = 350000/X. That gave me 135 grams evaporated. So I then minused that from the 300 giving me 165 grams left. Seemed reasonable to me but I got it wrong! Please help, but showing the steps to find the answer would be even more helpful! Thanks
 
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There are two heat sinks - one (water heating to 100 °C) doesn't depend on the amount of evaporated water, other (water evaporation) depends. When you use ratio it is equivalent to assumption that you have heated only part of water, while you have to heat it all.

Calculate how much heat was used to heat the water, excess heat was consumed by evaporation.
 
Okay, so I did (300)(4.18)(100-20)= 100320 J. Then I subtracted that from 350000J to get 249680 J. This is where I get a little confused... Do I then do this: 249680=mols(40.7KJ)(1000J). That gave me 6.13 moles of water and then I change that to grams to give me 110.4 grams of water that it can evaporate. I then subtract 300-110.4 to give me the grams of water left 190 grams. Is that correct? Thank you so much...
 
I have not checked the numbers, but the logic is OK.
 

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