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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for calculus-based physics textbooks suitable for introductory-level learners, particularly for those with a background in mathematics but limited recent experience in physics. Participants evaluate various textbooks, their relevance, and potential shortcomings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a favorable view of Purcell's textbook while criticizing other books in the Berkeley series as outdated.
  • Another participant questions the characterization of the MIT series by French as "extremely out of date" and seeks clarification on the implications of using "Newtonian Mechanics."
  • A different participant recommends the Feynman Lectures as a starting point for learning physics.
  • Another participant suggests "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn, highlighting its clarity and insightful content, particularly in the context of calculus.
  • One participant defends French's textbook, arguing that many contemporary freshman texts are derived from that era and thus not necessarily outdated.
  • There is a suggestion to explore Susskind’s theoretical minimum books and videos as an alternative resource.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which textbooks are the best choices, with multiple competing views on the relevance and quality of various texts discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of certain textbooks for modern learners, and there are varying opinions on what constitutes an "outdated" text.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking recommendations for introductory calculus-based physics textbooks, particularly those with a mathematics background looking to refresh their physics knowledge.

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bcrowell said:
Purcell is great, but most of the rest of the books in the Berkeley physics series are nothing special, and they are half a century out of date at this point. (Purcell is in a third edition, so it doesn't suffer from the problem of being out of date.)

The MIT series by French is likewise extremely out of date.

Hello I am myself trying to find good calculus-based physics textbooks at an introductory level (I majored long time ago in mathematics and took some physics courses at the university but it was a long time ago and never practiced since).

People seemed to recommend "Newtonian mechanics" often though (as well as his
"Vibrations and Waves"), and I was wondering what makes you say it is "extremely out of date"? Would I make myself a disservice learning from this book (which seemed maybe less steep than K&K)?
 
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Fricadelle said:
Hello I am myself trying to find good calculus-based physics textbooks at an introductory level (I majored long time ago in mathematics and took some physics courses at the university but it was a long time ago and never practiced since).

People seemed to recommend "Newtonian mechanics" often though (as well as his
"Vibrations and Waves"), and I was wondering what makes you say it is "extremely out of date"? Would I make myself a disservice learning from this book (which seemed maybe less steep than K&K)?
Alonso and Finn: Fundamental University Physics. I am also math major, and I found this book enjoyable. Brief, well-written, insightful, and clear book. It is not covered by a cluster of diagrams on every page, but when the author makes a diagram, it is clear, self-explanatory, and memorable .Does not shy away from the Calculus. The 2nd volume (EM) and 3rd volume (Quantum/ especially this one) make this book shine...
 
French is a fine choice. Many of today’s freshman texts trace their origins to that time period, i.e., it is not out of date. The goal is to find something readable for YOU.

Afterwords, if you are not driving towards something, you might check out Susskind’s theoretical minimum books and videos.
 
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