Calculus, left hand, right hand limits.

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The discussion revolves around the limiting behavior of the function f(x) = |x^2 + 3x - 18| / (x - 3) as x approaches 3 from both the left and the right. Participants are exploring the implications of the absolute value in the numerator and how it affects the limits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss evaluating the limit by selecting values close to 3, such as 2.999 and 3.001, to observe the behavior of f(x). There is a question about whether it is necessary to state the specific values that f(x) approaches from both sides or if it suffices to note the signs of the limits. One participant suggests breaking up the numerator to handle the absolute value and considers the implications of different cases for the limit.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding factoring and simplifying the expression, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to articulate the limits or the necessity of detailing the approach from both sides.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints such as the inability to use calculators during an upcoming test, which adds to the challenge of determining the limit values accurately. There is also a focus on understanding the sign of the expression near x = 3.

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Homework Statement



Its just a general query about problems along these lines...

f(x)=|x^2+3x-18|/(x-3) and a =3, discuss the limiting behaviour of f(x) as x→a^+, as x→a^- and as x→a.



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The Attempt at a Solution



So my basic solution to these types of problems are picking a number very close to 3 on either side of the number line, ie, 2.999 and 3.001 and then calculating to see what f9x) approaches given these values of x. The general answer I get is that x is negative on one side and positive on the other therefore as x→a the lim does not exist since lim x→a^- ≠ x→a^+. Although I have a test coming up and I know these types of questions are going to be involved, but I can't use a calculator in tthe test.

So my question is, do I need to state what f(x) approaces from both sides or is it sufficient to say its negative, then positive... therefore the lim does not exist.

The only reason I don't say what it approaches is because its hard to calculate ie what |(2.99999)^2 + 3(2.99999) -18|/ (2.99999 -3), is in my head.

so 1) do I need to state what it approaches... and 2) is there an easy way to calculate the squares and cubes etc of large decimal numbers is ie (2.99999999)^n?

Any help or thoughts greatly appreciated!
 
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Try breaking up the numerator, as you would typically do for this type of problem.

The only problem now is that you have absolute values on the top. You can drop the absolute values to form two different cases where as x approaches 3, you keep the numerator positive. Then you can divide out the denominator and calculate the limit by plugging in x=3. Your intuition in right, the limit doesn't exist because the limits are different from the left than the right. By doing this method you can show exactly how they are different.
 
charmedbeauty said:

Homework Statement



Its just a general query about problems along these lines...

f(x)=|x^2+3x-18|/(x-3) and a =3, discuss the limiting behaviour of f(x) as x→a^+, as x→a^- and as x→a.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



So my basic solution to these types of problems are picking a number very close to 3 on either side of the number line, ie, 2.999 and 3.001 and then calculating to see what f9x) approaches given these values of x. The general answer I get is that x is negative on one side and positive on the other therefore as x→a the lim does not exist since lim x→a^- ≠ x→a^+. Although I have a test coming up and I know these types of questions are going to be involved, but I can't use a calculator in tthe test.

So my question is, do I need to state what f(x) approaces from both sides or is it sufficient to say its negative, then positive... therefore the lim does not exist.

The only reason I don't say what it approaches is because its hard to calculate ie what |(2.99999)^2 + 3(2.99999) -18|/ (2.99999 -3), is in my head.

so 1) do I need to state what it approaches... and 2) is there an easy way to calculate the squares and cubes etc of large decimal numbers is ie (2.99999999)^n?

Any help or thoughts greatly appreciated!
Without the calculator, it's difficult to tell the sign of [itex]x^2+3x-18[/itex] , near x = 3.

Try factoring [itex]x^2+3x-18[/itex]. You get [itex](x-3)(x+6)\,.[/itex]

It should be easy to determine the sign of [itex](x-3)(x+6)[/itex] when x is a little greater than 3 and when x is a little bit less than 3.
 
Ok thanks I have worked out that you can cancel out terms in the numerator and denominator and then just plug in the approaching values...
Thanks for the input
 

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