Calculus problem find the equation of the line given two points

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The discussion focuses on finding the equation of the line La connecting two points on the curve f(x) = 1/x, specifically Pa and Qa, and determining the area A(a) between the curve and the line. The slope of the line is calculated as m = -1/(a^2 + a), leading to the line equation y = (2a + 1 - x)/(a^2 + a). The area A(a) is expressed as A(a) = (2a + 1)/(2a^2 + 2a) + ln(a/(a + 1)). The limits of A(a) as a approaches infinity and zero are determined to be lim[a→∞] = 0 and lim[a→0] = ∞, confirming the behavior of the area function. The conversation emphasizes careful handling of equations and signs throughout the calculations.
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Consider the curve f(x) = 1/x
Consider two points on f(x): Pa and Qa, where the x-coordinate of Pa is a, and the x-coordinate of Qa is a+1.
Let La be the line connecting Pa and Qa

1.) Find the equation for La
2.) Find a formula that expresses A(a) = the area between f(x) and La
3.) Determine lim(a-->∞) A(a) and lim(a-->0) A(a)
4.) Does A(a) have an extremum for 0 < a? If yes, determine if it's a minimum or maximu (or neither?), and what value of A(a) is at the extremum.

Extra: Redo the problem, where the x-coordinate of Qa is a^2Okay, so I know that the coordinate of Pa is (a, 1/a) and I know that the coordinate of Qa is (a+1, 1/a+1). So, you have the equation for the line y=mx+b. So, the slope would be [(1/a+1)-(1/a)] / [(a+1)-(a)], which would simplify down to m = -(1) / (a^2+a). Correct? How do I go on from here?
 
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Remember back to your Pre-Calc days... you have the slope and a point on the line. Is there a formula that can combine the two to get the equation of a line?
 
Right, well I know the equation y-y1=m(x-x1).
So, I would have: y-(1/a)=(-1 / a^2+a)*(x-a) ---> y=(-x / a^2+a)+(a / a^2+a)+(1/a).
Right? Or... y=(-x / a^2+a)+(2a+1 / a(a+1))
Which would imply that:
y = (2a+1-x)/(a^2+a)
Right?
 
Just be careful with your equations when posting online. Try to remember to use brackets. I know that you intended for your final equation to look like

y = \displaystyle\frac{-x}{a^{2}+a} + \frac{2a+1}{a^{2}+a}


And I just saw you updated your post, your final answer is fine (the brackets are good) but it would be better to split up the x term and the constant term (it'll be easier to integrate that way). The equation you had before was good, just be careful about parentheses.
 
Okay...
So, when setting up this area equation... would it simply be the the integral of -(x / a^2+a)+(2a+1 / a^2+a) dx - integral of 1/x dx [from x=a to x=a+1]?

Okay, doing that, I get that the function for the area between La and f(x) is:

A(a) = (2a+1 / 2a^2+2a) - ln(a+1) - ln(a)

Is this correct?
 
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That is how you set it up, I don't think your final answer is correct though, let me check...

I think you might have forgotten to distribute a negative sign when taking the integral, the natural logs aren't right. Try again and see what you come up with.
 
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Okay...
So, when setting up this area equation... would it simply be the the integral of -(x / a^2+a)+(2a+1 / a^2+a) dx - integral of 1/x dx [from x=a to x=a+1]?

Okay, doing that, I get that the function for the area between La and f(x) is:

A(a) = (2a+1 / 2a^2+2a) - ln(a+1) - ln(a)

Is this correct?

Use brackets! Is A(a) = (2a+1)/(2a^2+2a) - ln(a+1)-ln(a), or is it what you actually *wrote*, which would be A(a) = 2a + \frac{1}{2a^2} + 2a - \ln(a+1) - \ln(a)[/itex]? <br /> <br /> RGV
 
Yes, A(a) = (2a+1)/(2a^2+2a) - ln(a+1) - ln(a)

or is it

A(a) = (2a+1)/(2a^2+2a) - ln(a+1) + ln(a) ?
 
The second answer is what I got, and you can simplify that further if you like (properties of logs).

You still seem unsure about the sign of the last logarithm. How come?
 
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I don't know... I just copied that from my first try.
Anyway, would the reduced equation be:
A(a) = (2a+1)/(2a^2+2a) + ln[(a)/(a+1)] ?
 
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Yes, that's the right answer, but if you are unsure, you should go back and redo your work so you know why that is the right answer; i.e. convince yourself it is the right answer.
 
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No, I see what I did originally: I didn't carry the minus sign over.
Okay, so now that we have a function for A(a), how do the limits work?

We have:

(a) lim[a→∞]
(b) lim[a→0]

I got

lim[a→∞] = 0
lim[a→0] = ∞

Is that correct?
 

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