Can a Biology Graduate Succeed in a Physics Graduate Program?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of a biology graduate transitioning into a physics graduate program. Participants explore the necessary educational background, prerequisites, and potential pathways for someone without an undergraduate degree in physics or mathematics.

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  • One participant expresses a strong interest in physics after teaching elementary science and questions whether they can succeed in a graduate physics program without prior physics or math education.
  • Another participant suggests that returning to school to take necessary physics and upper division math courses is advisable, emphasizing the importance of demonstrating capability through standardized tests like the physics GRE.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that an undergraduate degree in physics or a closely related field is typically required for graduate studies in physics, suggesting starting with community college courses to gauge interest.
  • Some participants propose that pursuing a second bachelor's degree or a master's in a related field like biophysics might be a viable alternative.
  • There is a mention of the importance of foundational knowledge from undergraduate courses to be effective in graduate studies.

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Participants generally agree that a strong foundation in physics is necessary for success in a graduate program, but there is disagreement on the best approach to achieve this, with some advocating for a return to undergraduate studies and others suggesting alternative pathways.

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Participants highlight the need for upper-level courses and foundational knowledge, but there is uncertainty regarding the specific requirements of different graduate programs and the potential for alternative educational paths.

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Greetings everyone!

Without wasting any time, I would like to ask for a a piece of advice.

I graduated a couple of years ago with a bachelor in biology. Immediately, I stepped into teaching elementary or primary science at some schools. And since science isn't all about biology only, I've came across some physics topics (elementary physics topics like the gravity, electricity...). As odd and as lame as it might sound, a never felt interest gradually took over. I let this interest freely control my life, so I'd find myself reading physics books (not university level books) and browsing through the internet for physics phenomena, just as I am doing now.
Anyway, I've made a decent amount of money over the past 2 years from teaching, enough money that will allow me to comfortably pursue my graduate studies. Now initially, I looked to this interest in physics as a mere say 'hobby' just as a sales promoter would watch boxing matches, but still at times envisions himself in the ring throwing'em jabs and hooks. I actually started envisioning myself studying physics and exploring this field hungrily. Lately, I've been seriously thinking about my chances in studying physics and I'm at the verge of deciding what I should be studying.
Assuming we neglect the waste of time and money and that we neglect the possibilities of me blowing off decent opportunities I might meet if I will have continued grad studies in my current field, do you think a person with no undergraduate physics or maths knowledge, like myself, could jump into a graduate physics program and pull it off? Now I'm not talking about my chances of getting acceptance into the program as I already know the answers for that. Or, do you think I should rather take an unusual step by going back to undergrad school and start studying physics from zero?

Appreciate your opinions.
 
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No.

Well, maybe.

But mostly no.

But that's doesn't mean it's impossible.

You'll want to return to school, take the physics courses (and perhaps not the whole degree), as well as any upper division math courses you may have been able to skip out on.

Then you'll want to get an EXCEPTIONAL score on your pGRE. You need to show that you're capable of even attempting their program (most require a physics B.S, but some don't. You still need the pre-reqs).

I'd highly suggest taking time to do an internship related to physics or biophysics as well, if you're wanting to g oto graduate school for physics. They not only need to know you can do the physics, but you can DO the physics.

It might be easier to get a second B.S (if you can fund it) and go that way. Or a M.S in biophysics.
 
joerog said:
Assuming we neglect the waste of time and money and that we neglect the possibilities of me blowing off decent opportunities I might meet if I will have continued grad studies in my current field, do you think a person with no undergraduate physics or maths knowledge, like myself, could jump into a graduate physics program and pull it off? Now I'm not talking about my chances of getting acceptance into the program as I already know the answers for that. Or, do you think I should rather take an unusual step by going back to undergrad school and start studying physics from zero?

You need an undergraduate degree in physics or a closely related physical science (i.e. physical chemistry or engineering physics) to do graduate studies in physics. So, if you want to go to graduate school, you'll have to start by getting that.

It might be worth your while to take a few night school courses at your community college to really see if this is something you want to do without quitting your day job.
 
joerog said:
Greetings everyone!

Without wasting any time, I would like to ask for a a piece of advice.

I graduated a couple of years ago with a bachelor in biology. Immediately, I stepped into teaching elementary or primary science at some schools. And since science isn't all about biology only, I've came across some physics topics (elementary physics topics like the gravity, electricity...). As odd and as lame as it might sound, a never felt interest gradually took over. I let this interest freely control my life, so I'd find myself reading physics books (not university level books) and browsing through the internet for physics phenomena, just as I am doing now.
Anyway, I've made a decent amount of money over the past 2 years from teaching, enough money that will allow me to comfortably pursue my graduate studies. Now initially, I looked to this interest in physics as a mere say 'hobby' just as a sales promoter would watch boxing matches, but still at times envisions himself in the ring throwing'em jabs and hooks. I actually started envisioning myself studying physics and exploring this field hungrily. Lately, I've been seriously thinking about my chances in studying physics and I'm at the verge of deciding what I should be studying.
Assuming we neglect the waste of time and money and that we neglect the possibilities of me blowing off decent opportunities I might meet if I will have continued grad studies in my current field, do you think a person with no undergraduate physics or maths knowledge, like myself, could jump into a graduate physics program and pull it off? Now I'm not talking about my chances of getting acceptance into the program as I already know the answers for that. Or, do you think I should rather take an unusual step by going back to undergrad school and start studying physics from zero?

Appreciate your opinions.
One could pursue a graduate program in biology or related field, otherwise, one would need the better part of a physics undergrad program (at least the upper level courses) before venturing into a graduate program in physics. The introductory courses prepare one for upper level undergrad courses, while the upper level courses for graduate programs. To be effective in graduate school, one needs a strong foundation from an undergrad program.

This site gives one an overview of the field - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
 

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