Can a Cannonball's Height Exceed Its Range?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves projectile motion, specifically analyzing the launch angle of a cannonball to determine if its maximum height can exceed its horizontal range. The original poster seeks to find the minimum angle above the horizontal for this condition to hold true.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between height and range, with initial equations provided for both. Questions arise regarding the time variable used in the equations and whether it is consistent across calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying the relationships between the variables involved. One participant has identified a potential error in their reasoning regarding the time to maximum height versus the total time of flight, leading to a revised angle calculation. There is no explicit consensus yet on the correct angle.

Contextual Notes

Some participants question the necessity of including gravitational effects in their calculations, indicating a focus on understanding the underlying physics principles. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their initial approach, suggesting a need for further exploration of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A cannonball is launched with initial velocity of magnitude v0 over a horizontal surface. At what minimum angle θmin above the horizontal should the cannonball be launched so that it rises to a height H which is larger than the horizontal distance R that it will travel when it returns to the ground?

(A) θmin = 76◦
(B) θmin = 72◦
(C) θmin = 60◦
(D) θmin = 45◦
(E) There is no such angle, as R > H for all range problems.


Homework Equations



d = (vi+vf)/2)*t

The Attempt at a Solution



H = (1/2)(v0sinθ)(t) and R = (v0cosθ)(t)

Thus, if H = R, then (1/2)(v0sinθ)(t) = (v0cosθ)(t)
=>tanθ = 2, so θ = 63.4°. I'm probably making a really obvious mistake here, but I'm not seeing it. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Do you need to include the effect of gravity somewhere? [EDIT: Nevermind, you are using the equation d = (vi + vf)*t/2 which doesn't require knowing the acceleration.]
 
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poseidon007 said:
d = (vi+vf)/2)*t

H = (1/2)(v0sinθ)(t) and R = (v0cosθ)(t)

Thus, if H = R, then (1/2)(v0sinθ)(t) = (v0cosθ)(t)
=>tanθ = 2, so θ = 63.4°.
I think I now see what you're doing. Does the t in the H equation represent the same time as the t in the R equation?
 
ohhhh i see now. the t in the H equation is the time to get to maximum height, which is half of the t in the R equation. so it would really be (1/2)(v0sinθ)(t/2) = (v0cosθ)(t) which gives tanθ = 4 so θ = 75.9° (A). Thanks so much!
 
Good job.
 

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