Can a Cow Help Determine the Mass of the Moon?

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving a cow attempting to jump over the moon, with the aim of determining the mass of the moon. The subject area includes concepts from gravitational physics and circular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the cow's motion and the moon's mass, referencing Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation and centripetal force. Questions arise regarding the nature of the cow's orbit and the necessary variables for calculations.

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Several participants have provided insights into the relevant physical laws and equations, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the problem's requirements, with some suggesting symbolic solutions rather than numerical ones.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific information regarding the cow's orbit and the assumptions that may need to be made to approach the problem effectively.

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A cow attempts to jump over the moon, but insteads ended up in a orbit around the moon. How can the cow be used to determine mass of moon?
 
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What physical laws have you learned so far?
 
You have an awesome teacher to give you questions like this.

With respect to desA's question, specifically what you know about rotational motion and centripetal force
 
We have studied Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation which I think has to do something with the cow and the moon. Other things that we did a lab on are relationship between centripetal acceleration, radius of orbit and frequency and period of things in circular motion that is uniform.

ac = v2 / r
= 4pi2r / T2
= 4pi2rf2

Fnet = mv2 / r
= 4 pi2mr/T2
= 4pi2mrf2

FG = Gm1m2 / r2
 
Is the cow in geostationary orbit around the moon (satellite), or is it moving relative to the moon?
 
Although the question doesn't say to me it seems more like a satellite question. I think we have to use something like the speed of the cow around the moon, the radius cow travels and relate to mass of moon.

Thanks
 
Can someone please help? I still don't know exactly what to do!
Here's how far I got:
(G(mass of moon)(mass of cow)) / (distance of cow from centre of moon)2 = (mass of moon)(speed of cow2) / distance of cow from centre of moon)

Which variables will I need to use?
 
You don't need to numerically solve this, right?
So just solve symbolically for mass of moon, and whatever's on the other side will be CowInformation that gives you the mass of the moon!

And I agree that your teacher is too cool for assigning this problem. Who wants points of matter if you have cows jumping over moons?
 
Thank you very much!
 
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I agree with 'mbrmbrg'. If you desperately want a numeric answer, then you will need to make assumptions about the missing information, orbit etc. State these assumptions in your answer.
 
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I just went with an essay explaining how we would solve for mass. But thanks for all the help. I guess I just needed to know tat its a satellite problem.
 

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