Can a Discontinuous Wave Function Be Acceptable in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion centers on the acceptability of discontinuous wave functions in quantum mechanics, exploring the implications of such discontinuities on the mathematical formulation and physical interpretation of quantum states. Participants examine theoretical aspects, mathematical reasoning, and potential examples related to wave functions and their derivatives.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the implications of a jump discontinuity in a wave function while maintaining a continuous first derivative, suggesting that this scenario could lead to complications in the Schrödinger equation.
  • Others argue that while discontinuities in the first derivative may occur at infinite potentials, the wave function itself must remain continuous to preserve the probabilistic interpretation of quantum mechanics.
  • A participant emphasizes that the continuity of the wave function is crucial for defining probability density, raising concerns about the physical interpretation of discontinuous wave functions.
  • Some participants propose that the Rigged Hilbert Space formalism could address issues related to discontinuous wave functions and their mathematical treatment.
  • There is a suggestion for providing specific examples to clarify the discussion around discontinuous wave functions, indicating a need for concrete scenarios to better understand the implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the acceptability of discontinuous wave functions, with some asserting the necessity of continuity for physical interpretation, while others explore the mathematical frameworks that might accommodate discontinuities. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

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Participants highlight limitations in the standard treatment of wave functions, particularly regarding the assumptions of continuity and the implications of discontinuities on the mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics. There is also mention of the need for boundary conditions in cases of discontinuity.

Moses Lee
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I've been studying the basics of the quantum mechanics, and I found the continuity restraints of the wave function quite suspicious.
What if there is a jump discontinuity on a wave function where the first derivative of which is still continuous? What is the problem with such wave function?
 
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Moses Lee said:
What if there is a jump discontinuity on a wave function where the first derivative of which is still continuous?
This is best discussed (initially at least) by example. Do you have a particular specific example in mind?
 
If your wavefunction is discontinuous, then how can your first derivative be continuous? Further, the second derivative will be discontinuous and so your Schrödinger equation will be ill-defined.
 
AdaggerA said:
If your wavefunction is discontinuous, then how can your first derivative be continuous? Further, the second derivative will be discontinuous and so your Schrödinger equation will be ill-defined.

All these issues are fixed in the Rigged Hilbert Space formalism.

Its based on distribution theory which really should be in the armory of any applied mathematician. It makes Fourier transform theory a snap for example, otherwise you become bogged down is difficult issues of convergence etc.

I recommend the following book:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521558905/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Thanks
Bill
 
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AdaggerA said:
If your wavefunction is discontinuous, then how can your first derivative be continuous? Further, the second derivative will be discontinuous and so your Schrödinger equation will be ill-defined.

It would be helpful if you could provide a specific example of a problem involving a discontinuous wave function - I'm still not sure what you're thinking here.

Generally we require that the wave function be continuous across its domain, and expect to find discontinuities in the first derivative only where the potential becomes infinite (infinite square well, delta-function potentials, and the like). Discontinuities in the first derivative do mean that the second derivative is undefined so we can't solve Schrödinger's equation across the discontinuity, but that's not the same thing as saying that it is ill-defined. We can solve Schrödinger's equation on each side of the discontinuity and then take the requirement that the wave function be continuous as a boundary condition. But all of this is standard fare in first-year classes, so I presume that you're thinking of something more difficult.
 
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The wavefunction of a quantum mechanical partice must be continuous, otherwise, the probabilistic interpretation of the wavefunction fails (I mean of thprobability density, that is, the squared magnitude of the wavefunction |\psi(\vec{x})|^{2}dx^{3}) which tells you the probability of finding the particle in the volume interval dx^(3). Reducing it to one dimension, imagine a wavefunction with a jump at some x0, so that the quantity above passes from 0.4 to 0.1, what is the true interpretation of that? Also, think about the infinite potential well, where both sides of the wall are defined as (V(x=\pm L)=+\infty) In this concrete example, the continuity of the wavefunction states that, at the edges of the well, the wavefunction must vanish since the potential is infinite for x>L or x<-L, which means that the probability of finding the particle in that region has to be identically zero (here you see the probabilist interpretation we talked about before). Having we had a finite barrier, this continuity equation will still hold, however, the wavefunction at the edges will no longer be 0, and we would have \psi_{C}(x=L)=\psi_{R}(x=L) so that the central part and right part are linked that way, and analog for the left part at x=-L.

The significance of the wavefunction must be intimately related with the probability of finding the particle, and mathematical functions not satisfying this are just pure mathematical issues, but representing no physical situation.
 
gonadas91 said:
The wavefunction of a quantum mechanical partice must be continuous,

Hmmmm. Think about the Dirac Delta function.

As I alluded to the answer lies in Rigged Hilbert Spaces.

The test functions are the physically realizable ones ie are continuously differentiable etc etc and have nice mathematical properties. The dual with all sorts of weird stuff like the Dirac Delta function is introduced for mathematical convenience. That includes non continuous functions etc as well as functions that do not fall off at infinity.

Thanks
Bill
 

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