Can a Matrix with Identical Columns be Invertible?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of an nxn matrix, specifically focusing on the implications of having identical columns on the matrix's invertibility. Participants are exploring concepts related to linear independence and the relationship between column similarity and matrix properties.

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  • Participants are considering the definition of linear independence and how it relates to identical columns in a matrix. There are suggestions to examine the nullspace of the matrix and the determinant as methods to approach the proof of non-invertibility.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and exploring different angles of the problem. Some have offered insights into the nullspace and determinant concepts, while others are questioning the definitions and implications of linear independence in this context.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the definitions of linear independence and how they apply to the columns of a matrix, as well as the lack of formal terminology in some texts.

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i need to be able to prove that an nxn matrix with two identical columns cannot be invertible. I know that if the columns of the matrix are linearly independent then the matrix is invertible. Could some please give me a hint on how to do this proof because i really don't know where to start. :frown:
 
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Depending on what has been covered in your class, it may be easiest to work with the nullspace of the matrix A. A is invertible iff the nullspace of A contains only the zero vector.
Call, the matrix A. If you can find a nonzero vector x such that Ax=0, then you've shown A is not invertible.
 
As Galileo said, it depends on what has been covered. It is relatively easy to show that the determinant of a matrix in which two columns are the same is 0.
 
Chadlee88 said:
i need to be able to prove that an nxn matrix with two identical columns cannot be invertible. I know that if the columns of the matrix are linearly independent then the matrix is invertible. Could some please give me a hint on how to do this proof because i really don't know where to start. :frown:

what's it mean when two columns of a matrix are identical?

Compare this with what is meant by 'linearly independent'.

Can two identical columns in one matrix be independent?
 
Actually, I've never seen a text that definedf "independent" for the columns of a matrix!

You can, of course, think of the columns of a matrix as vectors and then determine whether or not those vectors are independent.
 
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hallsofivy, I think the columns being independent refers to them as vectors being linearly independent essentially (it's not proper terminology perhaps, but it does get the point across)
 
Office_Shredder said:
hallsofivy, I think the columns being independent refers to them as vectors being linearly independent essentially (it's not proper terminology perhaps, but it does get the point across)
Yeh, I went back and edited my post just before I saw this.
 

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