Matrix concept Questions (invertibility, det, linear dependence, span)

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The discussion revolves around the properties of square matrices, specifically focusing on invertibility, determinants, linear independence, and the span of column vectors. The original poster seeks clarification on how these concepts are interconnected and requests examples to illustrate these relationships.

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  • Participants explore the definitions and implications of matrix properties, questioning the original poster's understanding of matrices, determinants, and linear independence. They suggest examining the relationships between these concepts and the geometric interpretations of determinants.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and prompting the original poster to clarify their understanding. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of determinants and linear independence, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's queries.

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The original poster expresses difficulty in connecting the concepts of determinants and invertibility with linear independence and spans, indicating a potential gap in foundational understanding. There is also mention of specific formulas related to determinants and linear mappings that may not be fully understood by the original poster.

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For n*n matrix, I would like to know how matrix A being invertible means that det(A) is not 0, that A is linearly independent, and that columns of A spans the matrix.
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I have a trouble showing proofs for matrix problems. I would like to know how

A is invertible -> det(A) not 0 -> A is linearly independent -> Column of A spans the matrix

holds for square matrix A. It would be great if you can show how one leads to another with examples! :)

Thanks for helping out.
 
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Really any book on linear algebra has proofs of these facts. Have you consulted one of those? I like Axler's book on linear algebra :)
 
The answer to these questions could be given easily on some higher level. E.g. the first inclusion follows from the fact that the determinant is a group homomorphism. I assume that you didn't want to hear this as explanation. Hence I have to ask you, what you already know.

What is a matrix to you?
What is the determinant to you?
What does "A is linearly independent" mean, if not that the column vectors are linearly independent?

Edit: Do you know the formulas ##\det(A\cdot B)=\det(A)\cdot \det (B)## and ##n= \dim \operatorname{im}(A) + \dim \operatorname{ker}(A)##?
 
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The answer to these questions could be given easily on some higher level. E.g. the first inclusion follows from the fact that the determinant is a group homomorphism. I assume that you didn't want to hear this as explanation. Hence I have to ask you, what you already know.

What is a matrix to you?
What is the determinant to you?
What does "A is linearly independent" mean, if not that the column vectors are linearly independent?

Edit: Do you know the formulas ##\det(A\cdot B)=\det(A)\cdot \det (B)## and ##n= \dim \operatorname{im}(A) + \dim \operatorname{ker}(A)##?

I am aware of the the first formula, but not the second one.

The trouble I am having with linear algebra is that when I am given a question, I would know how to solve for determinants and inverse or decide if a matrix is invertible or not. But I do not know how one is related to the other..
 
You can imagine the determinant as the volume of the object spanned by its column vectors. If they are linearly independent, then they span a parallelepiped with positive volume. If not, then they span a hyperplane. But a lower dimensional object in a higher dimensional space has no volume.

The algebraic method is faster, but delivers no insights. If ##A## is invertible, then this means there is a matrix ##B## such that ##A\cdot B = 1##. As the determinant respects multiplication we get from this ##\det(AB)=\det(A)\det(B)=\det(1)=1## and so that ##\det(A)## is a divisor of ##1##, i.e. especially not equal ##0##.

If you have only a formula for the determinant, then you should prove this homomorphism property first, e.g. per induction.

This is why I asked you, what determinant means to you.

"A is linearly independent" is not enough. What does that mean? If I take what you wrote, then I see a vector ##A## in the vector space of linear functions on ##\mathbb{R}^n##. As a single vector is always linear independent as soon as it is different from the zero vector, this statement is trivially true and has absolutely nothing to do with the determinant of ##A##. Hence I assumed, that you meant something else. However, the
closest possibility to interpret what you might have meant, is to translate it by "the column vectors of ##A## are linear independent in ##\mathbb{R}^n##. But the I have ##n## linear independent vectors, and of course they span an ##n-##dimensional space. So where is the problem?

This is why I asked you about the meaning of "A is linearly independent". Linear independence always requires a reference: Where do the vectors live? When did you switch from matrix to vector? Matrices can only be linear independent if considered as vectors in some vector space.

The rank formula is the best way to see the implication from ##A## to its column vectors.

The remaining implication ##\det(A)\neq 0 \Longrightarrow ## "column vectors of ##A## are linearly independent" is best seen the other way around. Assume a non trivial linear dependence of the column vectors and see what is does to the determinant. One can handle this with the properties of the determinant, or the properties of ##A## as linear mapping.

This is why I asked you what ##A## means to you: a number scheme or a linear function?

Here is a good read about the geometry of such things:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1205.5935.pdf
I don't know whether it will answer your questions above, but it will definitely help you to imaginate the objects you are dealing with.
 

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