Can a Non-Analytic Function Have Directional Derivatives in Every Direction?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of directional derivatives for complex functions, specifically focusing on a function that is not necessarily analytic. The original poster presents a problem with three parts, exploring examples of non-differentiable functions that still possess directional derivatives, as well as conditions under which differentiability can be inferred from the existence of these derivatives.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss examples of functions that are not differentiable but have directional derivatives in every direction. They explore the implications of the Cauchy-Riemann equations and how they relate to differentiability. There is also an examination of how to express directional derivatives in terms of partial derivatives.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing examples and attempting to clarify their understanding of directional derivatives and differentiability. Some have provided specific functions and calculated directional derivatives, while others are working through the implications of their findings and seeking further clarification on the relationships between directional derivatives and the Cauchy-Riemann equations.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions related to the continuity of partial derivatives and the implications of differentiability in the context of complex functions. Participants are also navigating the constraints of their current knowledge and the requirements of the homework assignment.

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Homework Statement


f(z) is a complex function (not necessarily analytic) on a domain D in C. The directional derivative is Dwf(z0)=lim(t->0) (f(z0+tw)-f(z0))/t, where w is a unit directional vector in C. There are three parts to the question:
a. Give an example of a function that is not differentiable at any point but that has directional derivatives is very direction w at every point z0. Very that your example satisfies the required properties
b. If f is differentiable at z0, show that there is a constant c such that Dwf(z0)=cw for every w
c.Assume that the real and imaginary parts of f has continuous partials. Show that if there exists a constant c such that Dwf(z0) exists and equals cw for every w, then f is differentiable at zo.


Homework Equations


Cauchy Riemann: du/dx=dv/dy and du/dy=-dv/dx


The Attempt at a Solution


for a, I know that my function can't satisfy the CR eqns, b/c it can't be differentiable, but I don't know how to plug a specific function into my directional derivative definition
 
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Ok, here's a practice function. Suppose f(x+iy)=x. What's the directional derivative of f at z0=0 in the direction w=1+0i? How about in the direction w=0+1i? Just plug z0 and w into your definition of directional derivative.
 
the first one would be 1 and the second one zero.

So in general, for this function, Dwf(z0)=f(z0+t(u+iv))-f(z0)/t=(Re(z)+ut-Re(z))/t=u
where u+iv is the unit directional vector. So that would be an example of a function that is not differentiable anywhere but which has directional derivatives everywhere, right?
 
g1990 said:
the first one would be 1 and the second one zero.

So in general, for this function, Dwf(z0)=f(z0+t(u+iv))-f(z0)/t=(Re(z)+ut-Re(z))/t=u
where u+iv is the unit directional vector. So that would be an example of a function that is not differentiable anywhere but which has directional derivatives everywhere, right?

Sure. f(x+iy)=x doesn't satisfy Cauchy-Riemann, even though it has directional derivatives everywhere.
 
wow thanks! for part b, what I was thinking is that if f is differentiable at some z0, any two given directional derivatives must be equal. I'm not sure how to spin that into there exists a c such that every directional derivative equals cw though. One thing is that c should be the gradient at z0, but we haven't officially learned that yet, so I shouldn't have to use it.
 
g1990 said:
wow thanks! for part b, what I was thinking is that if f is differentiable at some z0, any two given directional derivatives must be equal. I'm not sure how to spin that into there exists a c such that every directional derivative equals cw though. One thing is that c should be the gradient at z0, but we haven't officially learned that yet, so I shouldn't have to use it.

Well, no, any two directional derivatives won't be equal. If Dwf=cw then it depends on w. This isn't the complex derivative. Try expressing the directional derivative in terms of the partial derivatives of f=u+iv. That way you can use Cauchy-Riemann.
 
Okay, so if f(x,y)=u(x,y)+iv(x,y) and w=w1+iw2 is the unit directional number, then
the directional derivative is
lim(t->0)[u(x+tw1,y+tw2)-u(x,y)]/t+[v(x+tw1,y+tw2)-v(x,y)]/t
I'm not sure how to spit that up even more to extract the partials, or to get w out of the equation.
 
du(x,y)/dt=du(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+du(x,y)/dy*dy/dt. That's basically the gradient formula. Some of those 'd's should be partial. And don't forget the 'i' in front of v(x,y).
 
okay so, let me get this straight. I have that the directional derivative equals
du(x,y)/dt+idv(x,y)/dt=du(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+du(x,y)/dy*dy/dt+i(dv(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+dv(x,y)/dy*dy/dt). Now, I know that du(x,y)/dx is just du/dx, one of the terms of the CR eqns, and likewise for the other three. I suspect that dx/dt=w1 and so on, but I'm not sure why. Also, should I be putting another i in front of all of the dy/dt's?
 
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Can someone please help me with the last bit of this proof?
 
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g1990 said:
okay so, let me get this straight. I have that the directional derivative equals
du(x,y)/dt+idv(x,y)/dt=du(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+du(x,y)/dy*dy/dt+i(dv(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+dv(x,y)/dy*dy/dt). Now, I know that du(x,y)/dx is just du/dx, one of the terms of the CR eqns, and likewise for the other three. I suspect that dx/dt=w1 and so on, but I'm not sure why. Also, should I be putting another i in front of all of the dy/dt's?

You are giving up too quickly. You are almost there. Sure dx/dt=w1, x(t)=x0+tw1, dx(t)/dt=w1. No, you don't need any more i's. Why would you? Now just use Cauchy-Riemann. Put c1=du/dx=dv/dy and c2=du/dy=(-dv/dx). Can you factor (w1+iw2) out?
 
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okay so- I have that dx/dt=w1 and dy/dt=w2.
Then,
du(x,y)/dt+dv(x,y)/dt=du(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+du(x,y)/dy*dy/dt+i(dv(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+dv(x,y)/dy*dy/dt)=du/dx*w1+du/dy*w2+idv/dx*w1+idv/dy*w2=(du/dx+idv/dx)w1+(-idu/dy+dv/dy)iw2=(c1+ic2)w1+(c1+ic2)iw2=(c1+ic2)(w1+iw2)

so my constant is just c1+ic2=du/dx+idv/dx. That seems right to me- is that what you meant?
 
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g1990 said:
okay so- I have that dx/dt=w1 and dy/dt=w2.
Then,
du(x,y)/dt+dv(x,y)/dt=du(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+du(x,y)/dy*dy/dt+i(dv(x,y)/dx*dx/dt+dv(x,y)/dy*dy/dt)=du/dx*w1+du/dy*w2+idv/dx*w1+idv/dy*w2=(du/dx+idv/dx)w1+(-idu/dy+dv/dy)iw2=(c1+ic2)w1+(c1+ic2)iw2=(c1+ic2)(w1+iw2)

so my constant is just c1+ic2=du/dx+idv/dx. That seems right to me- is that what you meant?

Yes, the constant c1+ic2 is the complex derivative.
 

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