Can a paraboloid become cone under limiting conditions?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether a paraboloid can become a cone under limiting conditions, exploring the mathematical relationships and definitions involved in this transformation. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to conic sections and their degeneracies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of the original question, suggesting that it may refer to a family of paraboloids defined by parameters, which could limit to a cone depending on those parameters.
  • Another participant provides a specific example using the equation z=(x²+y²)ⁿ, noting that different values of n yield different geometric shapes, with n=1 resulting in a paraboloid and n=1/2 resulting in a cone.
  • A further contribution draws an analogy to 2-D conics, stating that while hyperbolas can degenerate into intersecting asymptotes, and parabolas can become straight lines, the paraboloid does not have a corresponding conical degenerate form in 3D.
  • This participant also mentions that hyperboloids can degenerate into cones under certain conditions, specifically when a parameter k equals zero, and notes that the type of cone depends on the equality of parameters a and b.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether a paraboloid can become a cone, with some suggesting it can under specific parametric conditions, while others argue that it does not have a conical degenerate form. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical forms and conditions, but there are limitations in the assumptions made about the parameters and the definitions of degeneracy in the context of conic sections.

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What will be the limiting conditions?
 
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Your question does not really make sense. A paraboloid doesn't "become" anything. I presume you mean a family of paraboloids depending on one or more parameters. Yes, the limit as the parameters go to some value could be a cone. Exactly how depends upon the parametric equations.
 
If you start out with:
[tex]z=(x^{2}+y^{2})^{n}[/tex]
then n=1 gives you a paraboloid, whereas n=1/2 a cone, and other values of n something in between or beyond.
 
I think the OP means his question in the same sense that in 2-D the family of hyperbolas

[tex]\frac{x^2}{a^2}-\frac{y^2}{b^2}= k[/tex]

becomes the intersecting asymptotes when k = 0. And as such, the answer to his question is no. In 2D the parabola y = kx2 becomes a straight line. These are degenerate forms of their corresponding conics.

In 3D the corresponding situation arises with hyperboloids:

[tex]\frac{x^2}{a^2}+\frac{y^2}{b^2}-\frac{z^2}{c^2}= k[/tex]

degenerates into a cone if k = 0. Whether it is an elliptical or circular cone depends on whether a = b. The paraboloid has no conical degenerate form.
 

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