Can a poll reveal the secrets to career satisfaction and success?

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This discussion centers on the relationship between career satisfaction and success, particularly in the energy services industry. The participant, currently pursuing a Master of Science in Electrical Engineering (MSEE), observes that many engineers in managerial roles express dissatisfaction with their jobs. The conversation highlights the disparity between technical expertise and the perceived value of roles in marketing and finance, suggesting that success often favors those in sales and management rather than technical positions. The participant emphasizes the role of luck and risk-taking in achieving career success, contrasting it with the hard work typically associated with scientific and technical fields.

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  • Understanding of career progression in corporate environments
  • Familiarity with the energy services industry
  • Knowledge of the value of technical versus non-technical roles in business
  • Awareness of the impact of marketing and sales on company success
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  • Research the role of emotional intelligence in career advancement
  • Explore strategies for transitioning from technical roles to management positions
  • Investigate the influence of networking on career success in various industries
  • Learn about the principles of effective marketing and sales strategies
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Professionals in technical fields, career coaches, and individuals seeking to understand the dynamics of career satisfaction and success across different industries.

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can I take a poll?

What industry do you work in?
What's your degree?
Are you a middle manager?
Are you satisfied with your job?
Why did you choose your job?I work in energy services right now, while finishing my MSEE. I have managers around me that are engineers that I work with that are miserable with their job.

We all have different reasons, circumstances, goals, ambitions, family reasons, situations for taking jobs, My impression is that for those that have choices open to them, and are career oriented, many choose to work for a company that will offer them the most long-term benefit to their career.

How many people enter a position thinking they could work their way to the top?
It doesn't seem to me that this actually happens. Everyone at the top, from what I'm understanding, is usually a lawyer, a finance person, or went to state school for marketing and helped the founder.

I want to be on top of the world, I want to dig in deep, and make millions. Obviously I can't imagine any company wanting to pay me a salary over 200k. How could I possibly be worth more than that to a company? And I really don't want to be the slave to a company. I don't particularly care for slavery, in fact, it makes me sick. Although I see it around me all the time.

It's just slightly ironic to me, that we are the smart guys right? We busted are butts in the library for HOURS AND DAYS AND WEEKS, so that we can be managed by the bozos who were out on the lawn playing frisbee ?

Maybe that's not totally true. In fact, I don't believe it to be true. But I suppose the point I'm trying to illustrate here is that as scientists, maybe we tend to think that there are formulas for success just like there are formulas for everything else. Somehow, equilibrium will prevail in the equation of success, and the variable called hard-work will pay off. However, let's face it, the world works in mysterious ways, and quite often that strange hand we call luck plays a large role.
The movers, the shakers, the makers, the creators, the ones who take the risk, and reap the rewards, are they the ones that reap the most?

Or is it the ones who are dilligent, and put in immeasurable amounts of work, and can calculate the most technical of ideas.
 
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The world belongs to the salesmen and the marketers.

Technical people are of secondary importance. The company needs a product to sell, but it doesn't really need to be a particularly good product. A company with great marketing and sales will beat a company with a great product every single time.
 

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