Can a Test Pilot Transition to Aerospace Engineering at NASA?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of transitioning from a Test Pilot role in the Air Force to an aerospace engineering position at NASA or a private aerospace company. It also explores the possibilities for pursuing graduate education while serving as a pilot in the Air Force.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to become a Test Pilot and questions the feasibility of finding a job as an aerospace engineer after serving in the Air Force.
  • Another participant suggests that the Air Force Academy may be the best route for those wanting to fly professionally, emphasizing the value of military training.
  • A participant mentions the high costs associated with multi-engine turbine flight training, contrasting it with their own experience flying smaller aircraft.
  • Concerns are raised about the commitment required for advanced degrees while serving, with one participant noting that the Navy sends officers to MIT for doctorates, while Masters degrees may be more accessible.
  • There is a discussion about the perceived value of degrees from the Air Force Institute of Technology compared to civilian universities, with differing opinions on this matter.
  • One participant outlines the process of becoming a pilot in the Air Force, including the competitive nature of pilot school applications and the commitment involved.
  • A participant shares their experience working for a company that values military backgrounds, suggesting that finding civilian employment after military service may not be problematic.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the best path to becoming a Test Pilot and the value of military education versus civilian education. There is no consensus on the feasibility of transitioning to aerospace engineering after military service, nor on the value of degrees from different institutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the competitive nature of pilot school and the potential for additional commitments when pursuing advanced degrees while serving. There are also differing opinions on the respectability of degrees from military versus civilian institutions.

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I'm a rising high school junior and over this summer I've decided that I would like to be a Test Pilot in the Air Force, going through AFROTC. I plan on getting an aerospace engineering degree (possibly mechanical, or both) in college.

Now, the question is what is the feasibility of serving the 7 or so years in the Air Force and then finding a job as an aerospace engineer at somewhere like NASA or a private aerospace company?

Also, what are the possibilities for graduate education while serving as a pilot in the Air Force? On multiple sites it says that you can pursue a degree at the Air Force Institute of Technology, but it doesn't seem that a Masters or Doctorate degree from there holds the same respect as from a higher end civilian university. Can you get money and time to get a Masters/Doctorate from a place like Stanford or MIT while still serving?

Thank you for any answers.
 
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How far have you looked into this? Are you sure you want to be an officer in the Air Force?

You may decide you want to stay longer than the 7 years if you really like it.
 
I'm a private pilot and second year engineering student.

If you really want to fly for a living, the Air Force Academy is the way to go.
The engineering degree and pilot license are really things you'll do "on the side" in the big picture. If you do well, you will get lots of multi-engine turbine flight time... something you just don't get on your own (and is inaccessible to the average joe due to it's prohibitively expensive operation costs).

Look up how much multi-engine turbine training costs... it's insane.

I have no military obligation and the freedom of flying when and where I want, but I'm relegated to small piston engine aircraft.
 
You have to remember it takes a certain kind of person to lead men into a war zone, in the air or on the ground.
 
llamabread said:
Can you get money and time to get a Masters/Doctorate from a place like Stanford or MIT while still serving?

I don't know about the Air Force, but I know the Navy sends a number of officers to MIT for doctorates. Masters are easier in any branch of service - you get posted as an ROTC instructor and pick up your masters then. I also know that the services are not at all interested in getting someone an advanced degree only to have them leave, so expect an additional commitment.
 
llamabread said:
On multiple sites it says that you can pursue a degree at the Air Force Institute of Technology, but it doesn't seem that a Masters or Doctorate degree from there holds the same respect as from a higher end civilian university.

I'm not sure this is true - it depends on what you're studying (just like anywhere else). To become a test pilot in the Air Force, you would have to attend AFIT and get a degree in Flight Testing (not sure if this is actually what the degree is called). It is a two year program, and when you're done you have a Masters in Flight Testing. The graduation exercise, I believe, is to develop a test plan (presumably for something that needs to be tested) and to carry out the test. This parallels very closely what would be expected for a "normal" masters degree. Test pilots are professional researchers.

I have a close high school friend who attended the Air Force Academy, graduated last year, and is now at pilot school (which I believe is one year long). The commitment to the Air Force for attending the Academy is 7 years, and for attending pilot school, I think it becomes 11 years. I have another friend who took the ROTC route with the Navy and is at their pilot school. His commitment will also be 11 years for having become a pilot.

I have been told that it works something like this: You go to school and participate in the ROTC program for four (or five, depending on your school) years. In your last year, you apply to become a pilot. You have to meet all of the physical requirements (size, health, allergies, eyesight, etc.) and you have to have good grades (it's somewhat competitive). You get accepted into pilot school. After graduation from college you are assigned some kind of desk job while waiting to start pilot school (maybe a year or less). You finally get to go to flight school (about a year, I think). When you graduate, you're a pilot and you're assigned to some base where you get to fly a plane as part of your job (pretty sweet!). After a while (not sure if there's a time requirement on this) you apply to go to AFIT to become a test pilot. I don't know anything about how competitive this is or what the requirements are to do this, but my guess is that it is competitive. You get accepted to do this and you're golden - two more years of school and you're a test pilot. My point here is that you'll really have to work to become a test pilot in the military. Nothing is guaranteed in the military - you're at the mercy of your superiors. Becoming a test pilot is a really good goal, though - Good Luck!

As for finding a job in the civilian world after (if) you leave the service - I doubt that will be a problem. I work for a company that develops flight simulators and we LOVE to hire people with a military background, for both technical and non-technical positions. As a defense contractor, it helps to have employees who know [the right] people in the military and as a company that develops flight simulators, it is invaluable to have someone with experience in the jets that we're trying to simulate. This is only one example, though, and I have to believe that there are many other companies out there in similar situations. And if there aren't companies that are specifically looking for people with military backgrounds, I think an aerospace engineering degree would be in high enough demand that finding a job wouldn't be a problem.

-Kerry
 
Thx For Help ME Dear
 

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