Can all continuous functions be differentiated?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether all continuous functions can be differentiated, with participants seeking examples of continuous functions that are not differentiable. The scope includes theoretical considerations and examples from calculus.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants request examples of continuous functions that are not differentiable, specifically excluding the square root function.
  • Examples proposed include |x - 1|, |cos(x)|, and x^(2/3).
  • One participant identifies the standard example of f(x) = |x| as a non-differentiable continuous function.
  • Another participant questions the existence of continuous nowhere differentiable functions.
  • Responses indicate that there are indeed many continuous nowhere differentiable functions, with a reference to the Weierstrass function as a famous example.
  • One participant claims that "most" functions are not differentiable, suggesting that the "bad" functions vastly outnumber the "good" ones.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of functions like f(x) = x^(2/3) and the treatment of cube roots of negative numbers in different contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of continuous nowhere differentiable functions, with some asserting their existence while others are skeptical. There is no consensus on the implications of the examples discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved discussions regarding the definitions of certain functions, particularly in relation to their domains and the treatment of negative bases raised to rational powers.

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Can anyone give me an example of a continuous function that is NOT differentiable(other than the square root function)? I have to prove that not all continuous functions are differentiable.

Thanks!
 
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teddybear9 said:
Can anyone give me an example of a continuous function that is NOT differentiable(other than the square root function)? I have to prove that not all continuous functions are differentiable.

Thanks!
In what sense do you mean that the square root function is not differentiable?

Some functions to consider are:
|x -1|

|cos(x)|

x2/3
 
the "standard" example is f(x) = |x|.

the function SammyS no doubt intended was:

$f(x) = \sqrt[3]{x^2}$, as $f(x) = x^{\frac{2}{3}}$ is undefined for real x < 0.
 
Now, the natural question that you should ask yourself is:

Is there continuous nowhere differentiable functions?
 
Also sprach Zarathustra said:
Now, the natural question that you should ask yourself is:

Is there continuous nowhere differentiable functions?

I don't think so :S Is there?
 
in fact, "most" functions aren't differentiable, in the sense that the "bad" ones vastly out-number the "good" ones. this may come as a surprise to you. your teachers have been sheltering you from this terrible truth, and only letting you play with the "nice" functions.
 
oh haha thanks guys! :)
 
Deveno said:
the "standard" example is f(x) = |x|.

the function SammyS no doubt intended was:

$f(x) = \sqrt[3]{x^2}$, as $f(x) = x^{\frac{2}{3}}$ is undefined for real x < 0.
$\displaystyle g(x)=\left(\,\sqrt[3]{x}\,\right)$ is defined for all x, when considered as a real function.

So $\large{ f(x)=x^{\frac{2}{3}}}$ is also defined for all real x
 
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i understand what you're saying, every real number has a cube root. for reasons that are probably too far off-topic for this thread, some authors do not define $a^q$, when a < 0, and q is rational. it can be done for odd denominators, if one is careful. but some treat it as "complex-valued" (mathematica does this, i believe). there's a certain ambiguity in what the symbols mean.

when i learned calculus the first time, $\sqrt[3]{x}$ was a perfectly good function, defined on all of $\mathbb{R}$. things change once you consider the reals in terms of the complex field.
 

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