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wild69er
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LENGTH 3.75"
TAPERED WIDTH 2.25" to 1.50"
THREADED HOLE WIDTH .75"
HOLE DEPTH 1.75"
WEIGHT 12oz.
Can any one me identify this object?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the identification of an object found in a garden, believed to be made of marble. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding its purpose and origin, considering both historical and functional aspects.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant suggests it could be a Victorian period cistern pull, typically made of materials like china, ivory, or wood, and connected to a chain.
- Another participant proposes it might be the working end of a pestle, providing a link to a visual reference for comparison.
- A different viewpoint emphasizes that the object could be a marble handle from an earlier time, indicating that the wooden part may have decayed.
- Some participants note that the object resembles a cistern pull and recommend using a metal detector to search for additional pieces in the area.
- Concerns are raised regarding the lack of expected wear on a pestle and the nature of the threading, questioning whether it is wood or metal and suggesting further investigation into the thread pitch.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express multiple competing views regarding the object's identity, with no consensus reached on its exact purpose or origin.
Contextual Notes
Participants mention various assumptions about the object's material and construction, including the nature of the threading and the potential for additional components to be found nearby. The discussion remains open-ended with unresolved questions about the object's history.
LENGTH 3.75"
TAPERED WIDTH 2.25" to 1.50"
THREADED HOLE WIDTH .75"
HOLE DEPTH 1.75"
WEIGHT 12oz.
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Nidum
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It could be a Victorian period cistern pull .
A brass fitting goes in the hole and this is connected via chain to the cistern lever .
Most commonly made of china , ivory or wood .
A slightly more posh one
A brass fitting goes in the hole and this is connected via chain to the cistern lever .
Most commonly made of china , ivory or wood .
A slightly more posh one
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Nidum
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It could also be the working end of a pestle .
http://ab.wsimgs.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/wcm/201614/0096/porcelain-mortar-pestle-c.jpg
http://ab.wsimgs.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/wcm/201614/0096/porcelain-mortar-pestle-c.jpg
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Buckleymanor
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Of the two the pestle is the one.I had one like it.
The cistern pull has a hole all the way through it to secure the chain.
The pestle is smooth so it can grind.
The cistern pull has a hole all the way through it to secure the chain.
The pestle is smooth so it can grind.
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It could be the marble handle of almost anything from an earlier time. Obviously the wooden part has rotted away. I would be looking for other pieces to see if you can't cobble some parts together and then get a better idea of what the greater object is. If you find something else don't forget to mark its location and its distance from the original object. Then you'll get a better idea of the size of the larger object that this marble handle is a part of.
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And, yes, it does resemble a cistern pull. I actually looked at some online and they are usually connected to a metal fitting which is connected to a chain. I'd be sweeping the area in your garden with a metal detector. That is if you're still interested. Sometimes it's fun to do these little personal 'anthropology' projects.
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Baluncore
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It does not have the end wear expected on a pestle.
The thread does not look like a wood thread. Most brass tube is threaded with 26 tpi. What is the pitch of the thread ?
If marble, the hole would be drilled and tapped, then a bolt in a lathe would hold the article while the profile was cut and polished.
The thread does not look like a wood thread. Most brass tube is threaded with 26 tpi. What is the pitch of the thread ?
If marble, the hole would be drilled and tapped, then a bolt in a lathe would hold the article while the profile was cut and polished.
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ebos
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And even if it was wood, there should probably still be a brass or copper fitting. That's why he should go back in with a metal detector. Any mystery is a good mystery.Baluncore said: