Can Complex Integration Solve These Advanced Calculus Problems?

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The discussion revolves around the use of complex integration techniques to evaluate specific integrals involving cosine functions divided by quadratic expressions. Participants explore various methods to approach the integral, including contour integration and Laplace transforms, while expressing curiosity about alternative techniques and verification of results.

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  • One participant presents the integral Integrate[Cos[mx]/(x^2 + a^2), {x, -Infinity, Infinity}] and seeks guidance on solving it using complex integration.
  • Another participant suggests that the integral can be evaluated by considering the real part of a related integral involving e^{imx} and contour integration techniques.
  • A participant questions whether it is possible to integrate the cosine part separately using a different technique to verify the results.
  • Some participants argue that many integration problems using complex analysis do not have anti-derivatives expressible in terms of standard functions, complicating the approach.
  • One participant proposes using the Laplace transform as an alternative method to confirm results obtained through contour integration.
  • Another participant expresses admiration for a solution provided and seeks clarification on the reasoning behind a specific manipulation of integrals.
  • There is mention of using partial fractions to simplify a complex fraction related to the integral.
  • A participant introduces a new problem involving the Fourier transform of the sinc function and speculates on the possibility of solving it through complex integration.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to solve the integral, with multiple competing views and techniques being discussed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of alternative approaches to the integral.

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Some participants note that certain integration problems may lack straightforward anti-derivatives, and the discussion includes various assumptions about the applicability of different mathematical techniques.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying advanced calculus, complex analysis, or mathematical methods in physics, particularly in the context of integrals involving trigonometric functions and their applications.

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Hello my Math friends,

I have a complex integration problem:
The integral to calculate is :

Integrate[Cos [mx]/(x^2 + a^2), {x, -Infinity, Infinity}]
or if particularized for a=1, m=1 the integral will be :

Integrate[Cos [x]/(x^2 + 1), {x, -Infinity, Infinity}]

I know the answer for both of them:
(Pi/a)*(e^-ma) for the first
and
Pi/e for the second.

How this integral can be done through Complex integration ? I don't have a clue and I strongly wish to solve it.
Thanks.

PS: BTW, I would have written with math signs because I don't like the text style of writing math but I don't know how to do it here. Is there a trick ?
 
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youth4ever said:
Hello my Math friends,

I have a complex integration problem:
The integral to calculate is :

Integrate[Cos [mx]/(x^2 + a^2), {x, -Infinity, Infinity}]
or if particularized for a=1, m=1 the integral will be :

Integrate[Cos [x]/(x^2 + 1), {x, -Infinity, Infinity}]

I know the answer for both of them:
(Pi/a)*(e^-ma) for the first
and
Pi/e for the second.

How this integral can be done through Complex integration ? I don't have a clue and I strongly wish to solve it.
Thanks.
Hi youth4ever and welcome to MHB!

Your integral is the real part of $$\int_{-\infty}^\infty \frac{e^{imx}}{x^2+a^2}dx.$$ If you know about contour integration then you should be able to evaluate that integral by using a D-shaped contour.

youth4ever said:
PS: BTW, I would have written with math signs because I don't like the text style of writing math but I don't know how to do it here. Is there a trick ?
See the http://mathhelpboards.com/latex-tips-tutorials-56/ forum.
 
Hi Opalg,

Yes I know that it comes from e^imx/... integral. But I wondered if there is a way to simply integrate the cosine part separately by using a different technique and to double check the answer.
Is this possible ?

Thanks.
 
youth4ever said:
But I wondered if there is a way to simply integrate the cosine part separately by using a different technique and to double check the answer.
Is this possible ?

I think your question is. Rather than making things "complicated", why not just find anti-derivative of the function inside the integral and get the answer. But the problem with what you want is that a lot of these integration problems that use complex analysis to compute do not have anti-derivatives in terms of known standard functions. So what you want cannot be done.
 
If your interested in a different approach that would confirm the answer you get using contour integration, consider the Laplace transform of $$ \displaystyle f(t) = \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\cos (mtx)}{a^{2}+x^{2}} \ dx$$

Then by definition,

$$\mathcal{L}_{t} [f(t)](s) = \int_{0}^{\infty} \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\cos (mtx)}{a^{2}+x^{2}} \ e^{-st} \ dx \ dt = \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{a^{2}+x^{2}}\int_{0}^{\infty} \ \cos(mxt) e^{-st} dt \ dx$$

$$ = \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{a^{2}+x^{2}} \frac{s}{s^{2}+(mx)^{2}} \ dx = \frac{s}{s^{2}-a^{2}m^{2}} \int_{0}^{\infty} \left( \frac{1}{a^{2}+x^{2}} - \frac{m^{2}}{s^{2}+m^{2}x^{2}} \right)$$

$$ = \frac{s}{s^{2}-a^{2}m^{2}} \left( \frac{\pi}{2a} - \frac{\pi m }{2s} \right) = \frac{\pi}{2a(s+am)}$$Now undo the transform.

EDIT: What I had previously after this point wasn't quite correct.

$$f(t) = \mathcal{L}^{-1}_{t} \Big[ \mathcal{L}_{t} [f(t)](s) \Big] = \mathcal{L}^{-1}_{t} \Big[ \frac{\pi}{2a(s+am)} \Big]$$

$$ = \frac{\pi}{2a} \mathcal{L}^{-1}_{t} \Big[ \frac{1}{s+am} \Big] = \frac{\pi}{2a} e^{-amt}$$And therefore,

$$ \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{\cos (mx)}{a^{2}+x^{2}} \ dx = 2 f(1) = \frac{\pi}{a} e^{-am} $$
 
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Hello "Random Variable"

And many thanks for the solution. Your solution is incredible. I am amazed.
I have a question although.
How you knew at this point
$$ = \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{a^{2}+x^{2}} \frac{s}{s^{2}+(mx)^{2}} \ dx $$
to amplify the product with
$$\frac{s^{2}-a^{2}m^{2}}{s^{2}-a^{2}m^{2}}$$
and then add and substract $$(mx)^{2}$$ to the numerator
to obtain the sum :
$$ = \frac{s}{s^{2}-a^{2}m^{2}} \left( \frac{1}{a^{2}+x^{2}} - \frac{\ m^{2} }{s^{2}+(mx)^{2}} \right) $$
which is easily integrable in x variable? I just need a pattern on how to look because it is not obvious and I want to be able to apply this technique in similar situations.

Thanks.
 
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Randome Variable posted the same integral in the Challenge section, if you want an alternative solution, look here: http://mathhelpboards.com/challenge-questions-puzzles-28/integral-5-a-9140.html

:)
 
@youth4ever

I used partial fractions.

Assume that

$$\frac{1}{(a^{2}+x^{2})(s^{2}+m^{2}x^{2})} = \frac{Ax+B}{a^{2}+x^{2}} + \frac{Cx+D}{s^{2}+m^{2}x^{2}}$$

$$ = \frac{As^{2}x + Am^{2}x^{3} + Bs^{2} + Bm^{2}x^{2} + Ca^{2}x + Cx^{3} + Da^{2} + Dx^{2}}{(a^{2}+x^{2})(s^{2}+m^{2}x^{2})}$$If those fractions are equal, their numerators must be the same.

That leads to four equations that must be satisfied.

$$Am^{2} + C = 0$$
$$Bm^{2} + D = 0$$
$$As^{2}+Ca= 0$$
$$Bs^{2}+Da^{2} =1$$The first and third equations imply that $A$ and $C$ are zero.

Solving the second equation for $D$ and plugging it into equation 4, we get

$$Bs^{2} - Bm^{2} a^{2} = 1 \implies B = \frac{1}{s^{2}-m^{2}a^{2}}$$

Then from equation 2,

$$ D = -\frac{m^{2}}{s^{2}-m^{2}a^{2}} $$
 
@Random Variable
Thanks again.

How you would approach a problem like the following :
It come from the Fourier transform of the sinc function without the coefficient.
$$ \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{sin (ak)}{ak} e^{ikx} \ dk $$
Without the exponential term hanged there that would be easy and is convergent too as the sinc function dies at Infinity. But the complex exponential term introduces another cyclicity to the function so it may be regarded as non convergent because of the 0 and Infinity limits.
However I want to believe that this can be done through complex integration.
Or if not, we could take limits to be from Pi/2 to Pi for example.

What do you think ?
 
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