Can Conformal Transformations Explain Torsion in Different Spacetimes?

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Conformal transformations (CTs) represent a fundamental change in geometry rather than merely a change of coordinates. This discussion highlights the ability of CTs to transition Minkowski spacetime into Riemannian or Riemann-Cartan spacetimes, where torsion is present in Riemann-Cartan but absent in Minkowski. The conversation centers on whether torsion can be attributed to CTs, suggesting that torsion may not be an intrinsic geometrical property. The participants emphasize the importance of understanding the geometric implications of CTs in relation to torsion.

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CTs are not a change of coordinates but an actual change of the geometry, right? In principle, we can change the Minkowski spacetime into Riemannian one even Riemann-Cartan one by some kind of CT. In the Riemann-Cartan spacetime there is torsion while it is torsion-free for Minkowski spacetime. So how do we understand the problem? Can we consider the torsion coming from the CT and torsion is not an intrinsic geometrical quantity ? Thanks for any reply!
 
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CTs are not a change of coordinates but an actual change of the geometry, right? In principle, we can change the Minkowski space-time into Riemann one even Riemann-Cartan one by some kind of CT. In the Riemann-Cartesian space-time there is torsion while it is torsion-free for Minkowski space time. So how do we understand the problem? Can we consider the torsion coming from the CT and torsion is not an intrinsic geometrical quantity ? Thanks for any reply!

1. It is a change of geometry not just coordinates.

2. Minkowski space has nothing to do with conformal mapping.

3. I have no idea what you are talking about when you mention torsion.
 
I'm not sure what you're looking for. But consider a coordinate system where the coordinates system XY is normal at all points, though not necessarily orthonormal. The off-diagonal elements of the metric are zero for all points (x,y).

[tex]\hat{e}_i \hat{e}_j = 0, \ when \ i \neq j[/tex]

In a conformal transform of coordinates, XY --> UV the off diagonal elements in the UV basis remain zero.
 
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