Can Dark Flow Be measured, based on Special Relativity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of Dark Flow and its potential measurement using atomic clocks, exploring the implications of special relativity in this context. Participants consider the feasibility of measuring time dilation effects associated with Dark Flow based on the Earth's rotation and the movement of atomic clocks in different directions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method to measure Dark Flow using two atomic clocks, suggesting that the clock moving in a southerly direction would show time passing more slowly compared to the one moving northerly due to relativistic effects.
  • Another participant questions the relevance of Dark Flow to atomic clock readings, seeking clarification on the connection between the two concepts.
  • Several participants emphasize the need for quantitative analysis, asking for the magnitude of the Dark Flow effect and how it compares to other gravitational effects and the precision of atomic clocks.
  • Humorous remarks are made about the concept of Dark Flow in relation to personal experiences, indicating a lighter tone amidst the technical discussion.
  • A participant suggests a specific speed for Dark Flow and proposes adjustments based on the Earth's rotation, indicating a willingness to engage with quantitative aspects of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of Dark Flow to atomic clock measurements, with some questioning the connection while others attempt to establish a method for measurement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility and implications of measuring Dark Flow.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for quantitative data and comparisons with existing effects, indicating that assumptions about the magnitude of Dark Flow and its impact on atomic clocks are not fully established.

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Readers interested in theoretical physics, special relativity, and the measurement of cosmic phenomena may find this discussion relevant.

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Dark Flow and Speciel Relativity..
Let's assume Dark Flow is real.
If so can't we measure it based on 2 atomic clocks.
Dark Flow occurs presumely in a southerly direction.
One atomic clock must start at the time the earth's rotation begins to bring the first atomic clock in a slightly southerly direction, (due to the earth's 23.4 degree inclination) and stop when the southernmost point is reached.

The other atomic clock must do the opposite.
That is, start when the Earth's rotation brings it in a northern direction, and stop when the most northern point is reached.
These cycles can be repeated several times.

Should we then not expect that: - the clock that measures time when it moves towards a southern direction, will show that time has passed more slowly relative to the clock that measures time when the earth's rotation brings it towards a slightly northerly direction. ?
 
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Be quantitative. What is the approximate magnitude of the effect we’d measuring? How does it compare with other effects from the non-homogeneous distribution of mass in the vicinity of the Earth? How does it compare with the accuracy of of our best atomic clocks?
 
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Why would Dark Flow have anything to do wuth atomic clock readings?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Why would Dark Flow have anything to do wuth atomic clock readings?
Well, when I'm rushing to the bathroom because a dark flow is imminent, time sure seems to go faster. But it slows down after a big bang gets the flow going. :oldruck:
 
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strangerep said:
Well, when I'm rushing to the bathroom because a dark flow is imminent, time sure seems to go faster. But it slows down after a big bang gets the flow going. :oldruck:
I think that was more than we needed to know...
 
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Nugatory said:
Be quantitative. What is the approximate magnitude of the effect we’d measuring? How does it compare with other effects from the non-homogeneous distribution of mass in the vicinity of the Earth? How does it compare with the accuracy of of our best atomic clocks?
Let's say the speed of Dark Flow = 600 km/s, - add to tat 100m/s when rotating slightly towards south and reduct 100 m/s when moving slightly north.
 
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