Can Divergent Series Sums Converge?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of convergence for the sum of two divergent series, specifically examining the series $$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n \pm b_n)$$ given two divergent series $$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} a_n$$ and $$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} b_n$$. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if $$a_n = b_n$$, then $$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n - b_n)$$ equals zero, suggesting a scenario where the combined series converges.
  • Others argue that the equality $$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n \pm b_n) = \sum_{n=k}^{\infty} a_n \pm \sum_{n=k}^{\infty} b_n$$ is generally valid only if the individual series converge.
  • A later reply suggests that one can construct examples where the series diverge yet their combination converges, such as defining $$a_n$$ in terms of another divergent series and a convergent series.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the sum of two divergent series can converge, with no consensus reached on the conditions under which this might occur.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the validity of combining divergent series depends on specific conditions and definitions, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Consider the two divergent series:
$$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} a_n$$
$$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} b_n$$
Is it possible for ##\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n \pm b_n)## to converge?
 
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Yes, consider the case ##a_n = b_n##. Then the sum of ##a_n - b_n## is zero.
 
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Orodruin said:
Yes, consider the case ##a_n = b_n##. Then the sum of ##a_n - b_n## is zero.

Thanks!
But in that case does it make sense to say that ##\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n \pm b_n) = \sum_{n=k}^{\infty} a_n \pm \sum_{n=k}^{\infty} b_n##?
 
MohammedRady said:
Thanks!
But in that case does it make sense to say that ##\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n \pm b_n) = \sum_{n=k}^{\infty} a_n \pm \sum_{n=k}^{\infty} b_n##?
No, it generally make sense only if the series converge.
 
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MohammedRady said:
Consider the two divergent series:
$$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} a_n$$
$$\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} b_n$$
Is it possible for ##\sum_{n=k}^{\infty} (a_n \pm b_n)## to converge?

You really ought to be able to find examples yourself to resolve this question.
 
You can construct others, for example ##a_ {n}=\frac{1}{n^{2}}+b_{n}## so ## \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_{n}-b_{n}=\frac{\pi^{2}}{6}##...
 

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