Can dog breeding truly be considered evolution?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether dog breeding can be classified as a form of evolution. Participants explore the implications of selective breeding versus natural evolution, the role of mutations, and the genetic mechanisms involved in breeding dogs from wild ancestors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if it is possible to breed a significantly smaller dog from a population of larger wolves without DNA mutations, suggesting that the necessary genes must exist within the original population.
  • Another participant argues that selective breeding is a form of evolution, although it differs from natural evolution due to human intervention.
  • Some participants emphasize that mutations occur spontaneously and are a crucial part of the evolutionary process, challenging the exclusion of mutations from the discussion.
  • There is a debate about whether selective breeding and natural selection are fundamentally the same, with some asserting that selective breeding does not enhance survival chances in the same way natural selection does.
  • One participant defines evolution as a change in allele frequency over time, asserting that this is happening in selectively bred dogs, thus qualifying it as evolution.
  • Another participant distinguishes between natural evolution and artificial evolution, arguing that human control over breeding processes creates a different evolutionary context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between selective breeding and natural evolution, with no consensus reached on whether dog breeding constitutes a form of evolution comparable to natural processes. The role of mutations in the breeding process is also contested.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of selective breeding without mutations, the genetic diversity within populations, and the implications of human intervention in the evolutionary process. There is uncertainty regarding the extent to which traits can be selected without introducing new mutations.

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As far as the OP goes, the important thing is how closely breeder selection mimicks a pattern of natural selection -- that is, whether creatures are being selected for their genotypes or phenotypes.

For instance, in the early days of cattle breeding (and in most cows today, in fact), breeding was natural selection in all but name -- cows which produced more milk or meat were allowed to breed, gradually resulting in a population that produces more milk or meat. This is a direct, immediate selection due to phenotype, and fits evolution.

But most dogs nowadays are bred with foresight. A dogs will be bred from if there's a good chance that they carry a desired mutation, WHETHER OR NOT THEY EXHIBIT THE MUTATION PHYSICALLY. their partner will be chosen to have the same mutation. this does not mimick natural selection and does not fit the evolution model -- it's similar, but not the same.
 

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