Can Ed Koch's Endorsement of Bush Swing Florida Votes?

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The discussion centers around the implications of Ed Koch's endorsement of President George W. Bush for his re-election, particularly in relation to the fight against international terrorism and its potential impact on voter sentiment in Florida. Participants explore various perspectives on Bush's policies, the effectiveness of the war on terrorism, and the political landscape surrounding the upcoming elections.

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Main Points Raised

  • Ed Koch expresses strong support for Bush, citing his commitment to fighting international terrorism as a primary reason for his endorsement.
  • Some participants argue that the U.S. is less safe now than it was on 9/11, suggesting that the war in Iraq has led to the emergence of new terrorist groups.
  • There are concerns that Koch's endorsement could sway Jewish voters in Florida, potentially impacting Kerry's campaign.
  • One participant reflects on the paradox of whether another terrorist attack would benefit or harm Bush's re-election chances.
  • Some participants critique the methods of the war on terrorism, suggesting that it has not effectively addressed the root causes of terrorism and has diverted attention from domestic security issues.
  • Others argue that the U.S. has historically supported regimes that have contributed to terrorism, questioning the sincerity of its current anti-terrorism stance.
  • There is a sentiment that Bush's rhetoric may lead to an erosion of civil liberties, with calls for a more intellectual and measured approach to leadership.
  • Participants express differing views on whether Al Gore would have handled the post-9/11 situation differently, with some believing he would have prioritized Afghanistan over Iraq.
  • Concerns are raised about the long-term effects of U.S. foreign policy decisions on global perceptions and safety.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the effectiveness of Bush's policies or the implications of Koch's endorsement. Disagreements persist regarding the impact of the war on terrorism and the appropriate approach to national security.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on interpretations of historical events and the effectiveness of various policies, which may depend on differing definitions of safety and success in combating terrorism. The discussion reflects a variety of perspectives on the political implications of the upcoming elections.

  • #61
loseyourname said:
This could spell a lot of trouble for Kerry if his opposition to Bush's middle east policy means that more prominent Jews, like Koch, turn their support to Bush.

Since when does anyone listen to Ed Koch?
 
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  • #62
Elizabeth1405 said:
Since when does anyone listen to Ed Koch?
Somebody must have listen to him, he was a three term Mayor of New York and a two term U. S. Congressman.
 
  • #63
Robert Zaleski said:
Somebody must have listen to him, he was a three term Mayor of New York and a two term U. S. Congressman.

Uhh, when, 20 years ago? I just think it's funny that we're resorting to quotes from Ed Koch as a way to show support for Bush.
 
  • #64
Elizabeth1405 said:
Uhh, when, 20 years ago? I just think it's funny that we're resorting to quotes from Ed Koch as a way to show support for Bush.
Many of those same people that voted for him 20 years ago are now elder retirees living in South Florida.
 
  • #65
Robert Zaleski said:
Many of those same people that voted for him 20 years ago are now elder retirees living in South Florida.

HUH? What does that have to do with anything? And I might add, many of those same retirees living in Florida who you refer to are the ones who didn't get their votes counted in the last election...
 
  • #66
Bush won Florida by about 500 votes during the 2000 election. Recent polls suggest that Florida will once again be up for grabs. A Koch endorsement of Bush could persuade some of these former New York democrats, now Florida democrats to vote for Bush. If Bush can garner just 250 of these votes, it would mean a 500 vote swing for the republicans.
 

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