Can Electrons Overcome Gravity in a Black Hole?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the interaction of electrons with a black hole, specifically whether the Coulomb repulsion between electrons could overcome gravitational forces and affect the black hole's structure. The scope includes theoretical considerations of black hole physics, charged black holes, and the fundamental forces at play.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of shooting electrons into a black hole to see if Coulomb repulsion could counteract gravity and potentially push the black hole apart.
  • Another participant references the Reissner-Nordström metric, indicating that there is a limit to the charge a black hole can carry before becoming a naked singularity, but notes that matter/energy cannot escape from the black hole.
  • A participant questions the characterization of gravity as weak, suggesting that there are scenarios where gravity can overpower other fundamental forces, and inquires about the potential effects of the electric field of the black hole on incoming electrons.
  • Links to external resources are provided for further reading on the topic, including academic papers related to black hole physics.
  • One participant clarifies that while naked singularities are solutions to the equations governing charged black holes, it is not possible to convert a non-naked black hole into a naked singularity simply by adding charge; sufficient mass is required to avoid this transition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the interaction of electrons and black holes, particularly concerning the nature of gravity and the implications of adding charge to a black hole. No consensus is reached on the feasibility of the initial proposal or the implications of the Reissner-Nordström metric.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the behavior of charged particles near black holes, the definitions of naked singularities, and the conditions under which gravitational and electromagnetic forces interact. Mathematical steps and implications of the referenced metrics remain unresolved.

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What if I shoot a bunch of electrons into a black hole, could I make the coulomb repulsion over come the gravity and maybe push the black hole apart?
 
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Check out the Reissner-Nordström metric, which describes a spacetime containing a charged, nonspinning black hole. You will see that there is an upper bound on the charge the hole can carry before it becomes a naked singularity. However, the constituent matter/energy will not escape.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reissner-Nordström_black_hole
 
thanks, Ill read more about it. Why do people say that gravity is weak if in certain cases gravity can over power the other fundamental forces? Or does there come a time when I wouldn't be able to shoot more electrons into the BH, Like the E field of the BH would push the electrons away?
 
Naked singularities exist as a solution to the charged black hole equations,but you can't turn a non-naked black hole into a naked singularity by feeding it charge. In order to get the charge into the black hole, you'll have to give it enough mass that it won't become a naked singularity.

This is mentioned in MTW, for instance, I'd have to look up the exact reference. It should be mentioned in most other textbooks, too.
 

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