Can every open subset of R be written as a countable union of open intervals?

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The discussion revolves around the characterization of open subsets of the real numbers, specifically whether every open subset can be expressed as a countable union of disjoint open intervals. The scope includes theoretical exploration and examples of open sets.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a theorem stating that every open subset of R can be uniquely expressed as a countable union of disjoint open intervals, but questions the interest of this characterization with simple examples like (0,1).
  • Another participant suggests the complement of the set \{0\}∪\{1/n | n∈ℕ\} as a more interesting example, noting that it is still a union of open intervals.
  • A different participant proposes the complement of the Cantor set as an example of an open set whose representation as a union of disjoint open intervals may be complex.
  • One participant introduces a set F defined by F = \{\frac{1}{p^n} : p\ is\ a\ prime\ and\ n \in \mathbb{N}\} ∪ \{0\}, claiming that its complement R - F is open but difficult to express as a union of disjoint open intervals.
  • A clarification is made regarding the definition of the set F, emphasizing that p should vary over all primes.

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Participants express varying degrees of interest in examples of open sets that can be represented as countable unions of disjoint open intervals. There is no consensus on what constitutes a non-trivial example, and the discussion includes multiple competing views on the complexity of certain sets.

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Participants explore the relationship between open sets and their complements, noting that the complexity of expressing certain open sets as unions of disjoint intervals may depend on the properties of the closed sets from which they derive.

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I'm currently reading Real Analysis by Stein and Sharkarchi and they state the following theorem:

Every open subset O of R can be written uniquely as as a countable union of disjoint open intervals.

They prove it and I understand the proof. I was just playing around with open sets, but it seems like there's no punch to it, so to speak. If I take (0,1) the 'countable union of disjoint open intervals' is the set itself and if I take the union of two open intervals then again its the set itself. I guess the open set would have to be something weird to be more interesting. Is there maybe any more interesting examples of an open set being written as a countable union of disjoint open intervals?

Thanks
 
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Perhaps the complement of \{0\}\cup\{1/n~\vert~n\in \mathbb{N}\}, but that's also trivially a union of open intervals. But it's more interesting...

Or take the complement of the Cantor set...
 
I think you're looking for an example of an open subset of R whose description as a union of disjoint open intervals is non-trivial. How about this: Define the set F by

F = \{\frac{1}{p^n} : p\ is\ a\ prime\ and\ n \in \mathbb{N}\} \cup \{0\}

Then F is closed (since it contains its only limit point 0), so R - F is open. However, it seems to me that writing R - F as a union of disjoint open intervals is complicated.
 
Thanks to both of you! For some reason I hadn't thought of taking closed sets and looking at their compliments. So thanks!
 
Just to clarify my definition of the set F: p is supposed to run over the entire set of primes, not a single fixed value. Also, the complement of the Cantor set is an excellent example.
 

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